Quote Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182604#po st182604
"Geared out" in my opinion is "able to complete "x" objective". I guess in your mind its "wearing mail and able to complete "x" objective" - which has nothing to do with actually completing the objective.
I'd even say full epic mail.

Quote Originally Posted by 'Bigfish',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182610#post 182610
Quote Originally Posted by 'Ken',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182600#post1826 00
You only need 1 dedicated healer for heroics and raiding. No need for extra chain heals. There isn't "a lot more micromanagement" if you group your spells properly and use cast sequences properly. In general all spells from any class can be categorized in general categories like aoe/instant cast/regular/DoT/etc. I personally categorize them into: single target dps cast sequence, multi target dps cast sequence, close combat cast sequence, spell interrupt
Also, I prefer 'real' AoE healing from a priest.


More unwieldy? o_O
Seriously, any class can do DPS fine with a castsequence. And what you might call "unwieldy" is something I might call a challenge.
Why why why WHY do people think they know more about my set up than I do?
Why can't I haven an opinion?
Why do you assume I don't have any experience with the group combinations I'm talking about or: why is my experience negligible?

My statements are based on the evolvement of my own group, that went as follows:
4 shamans (lvl 70, BC)
=> 4 shamans + warrior tank (lvl 70, BC)
=> 3 shamans + warrior + priest (lvl 80, WotLK)
=> shaman, hunter, mage, warrior, druid (lvl 69-80, WotLK) AND shaman, hunter, mage, paladin, druid (lvl 69-80, WotLK) AND shaman, hunter, mage, [s]paladin,[/s] druid, priest (lvl 69-80, WotLK)

Each step my group diversified, it was an overall improvement for me.


@ Fursphere:
There is no way that you can claim that X of the same class gives more buffs(main ones, like totem of wrath, priest stamina and spirit, int buff, etc.) than a well-chosen diversification of other classes. Some shaman totems stack, I agree, and that *can* be very powerful. Also, not all class buffs stack, I'm aware of that, but in the end, you gain more unstacked buffs with different classes than with stacking the same class.
How much have you raided? Surely, you must have seen a DPS improvement when being in a raid? I definitely have (with my shamans).

[edit] Further down, you mentioned a list of buffs, however, important buffs/skills are missing per class, like the ones from the talent trees.