WG exploit

[Multibocks]

Don't know if you have seen this one, but it makes me angry. We were ahead of alliance in that they had ZERO walls down and we had just destroyed all their towers. Suddenly with 3mins left we lose, everyone is yelling, "WTF!???" Apparently demolishers can ghost through walls, I'm not aware of the exact details. However when we lost I was near keep and I turned around to see 3 alliance destroyers fall apart on the steps of the keep(which they do once battle is over.) It's interesting how they cannot implement a catch code that verifies position of the vehicle. If its in the keep and there are no walls down, then destroy it(better yet, ban the player... ok, I kid.) I was pissed, my guys are close to getting an upgrade =(

[Dominian]

Its known and been around for awhile!

There is also a exploit that allows you to fire over the walls from certain positions and at the keep door.

Both are reported to blizzard so lets hope theyr doing something with it in 3.1!

[Nirthal]

You can 'Drive' the demolishers through the gap in the walls for un-vehicle'd players to go through if you aim for the gap and keep moving forward till you fit through... it looks quite comical actually.

[Lyonheart]

Its not an exploit. You can only drive through the inner court walls.. you HAVE to break down an outer wall first. It is a BUG that needs to be fixed. why is it NOT an exploit? because there is no way NOT to do it. you HAVE to attack the inner court yard walls to get to the orb door. Its not the players fault that the wall lets you drive right by. to NOT "exploit" it would mean to not use demos at all. Sorry, its not an exploit. Blizzard needs to fix it, it has been like this for over a month.

Firing over the walls and "aiming" for the door is a perfect use of strategy, not an exploit in any way.

[KvdM]

Eh.. exploiting is defined as abusing a bug to gain an advantage.

Its for Blizzard to decide whether these particular exploits give the player an unfair advantage and are thus considered cheating. It might very well be that they will consider firing over the wall to be a tactic, because it is counterable. However, it is just as likely that they will consider it as cheating, since those walls are there to stop the attacking team from directly attacking the doors.

[Multibocks]

Its not an exploit. You can only drive through the inner court walls.. you HAVE to break down an outer wall first. It is a BUG that needs to be fixed. why is it NOT an exploit? because there is no way NOT to do it. you HAVE to attack the inner court yard walls to get to the orb door. Its not the players fault that the wall lets you drive right by. to NOT "exploit" it would mean to not use demos at all. Sorry, its not an exploit. Blizzard needs to fix it, it has been like this for over a month.

Firing over the walls and "aiming" for the door is a perfect use of strategy, not an exploit in any way.

Are you high? Knowing that driving vehicles at the wall gets you through and you dont have to destroy the wall is the DEFINITION of exploiting. Blizzard expects you to destroy those walls and you know that. Alliance on my server specifically takes the main raid to the east side and then sends 4 rogue demolishers to the opposite side. I realize we should leave someone over there, but come on this is BG pvp not premades.

The bottom line is Blizzard wants you to destroy the walls to win, we all know an EXPLOIT to get past that and do it everytime. The reason I say "we" is I'm sure that horde uses it too, I just never enter the Keep to reduce lag.

[Souca]

Ugg. I've also heard of people who creatively log out log back in to cap without ever using a vehicle. Not sure if it still happens, but I have a friend who lost when the other team had no vehicles.

One thing I would love to see is more battle grounds. I'd love to have something like AV or AB using vehicles and maybe even no raid limits, except maybe 120 per side. Hell an AB style zone where there wasn't even a win condition would be great. I want something that lasts forever and calls for full scale slaughter like the stories I hear about old AVs.

WG is too short and one sided. If the attacker had to defend as well, or their were multiple goals, it would be so much more dynamic.

- Souca -

[Lyonheart]

I know they WANT you to destroy the walls, but get this.. the demolishers are made to smash the walls down with rams right? well guess what? When you try to drive up close enough to use the ram, you go right through. YES it can "technically" be defined as an exploit. But its not the type that you have to do some special thing to make it work. Its a bug that lets people, knowingly or not, drive through the wall when they "try" and ram it down. So if they didn't want it being used, they would have fixed it or disabled demolishers LONG AGO! You name me one person who has been banned for driving through the wall. I can tell you I have been reported driving all 5 of my demos through and killing the orb wall and winning for us. More than once. They are obviously allowing it until they find a way to fix it. ( i reported the bug myself the first time it happend to me, weeks ago )

[Multibocks]

You can stop your vehicle in front of the wall and still bring it down. You are talking semantics and we all know Blizzard doesn't give a crap about semantics. Are you supposed to destroy the wall? Yes. Did you? No. Case closed.

The fact that they havent banned anyone is it's a well known bug and they will take care of it at some point. Does that make it ok? No. However, they arent going to ban all of their subscribers. Will I use it now? You bet, it's bullshit, but I am not going to be on the receiving end of it all the time. I know I am exploiting, but I also know they are not going to ban everyone using it.

The whole point of this conversation was to point out that it pissed me off, and YES it is an exploit. It is unintended behavior of the vehicle, but like I said they are not going to ban everyone. I'll use it until they fix it so I know I am playing a level field. I hope that the more people know about this the faster it will get fixed. I want WG to be fair and it's not.

[Multibocks]

sigh so sick of this exploit, alliance on my server are particularly good at it. WG at noon today was over in 5 minutes, no that is not an exaggeration. No one wants to stay and guard the keep, because they need rank to get the WG marks, so alliance just sneak in =(