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The existance of a market does not justify inaction in the face of illegality. There's a market for everything, right down to the most debased and inhuman things you can think of. It doesn't mean we shouldn't stop people from engaging in said activity because people have done it before and will do it again.
So how about fair use laws? And other cases that have ruled that disassembling a program and leaving a copy in ram to ensure compatabilitys ect (anti virus is a big one) is a LEGAL practice. How about Apple trying to sue for people jailbreaking a iphone? Lets say you bought a program and no longer need it, but you cant do anything with it ! Because it was a "leased" copy. I think your focus is just on wow, and not the overall legal issues that are already arising due to the mdy vs. blizzard case. It will be a scary day when a Terms of Use, is now plain law. What if microsoft said no more use of fire fox or its a violation of their operating systems terms of use ? Now by downloading and browsing your breaking your terms of use, violating DMC laws, and lost your windows copy! What is really illegal about botting (and this is NOT, a discussion about terms of use botting wow is wrong by their tems of use and will get you banned. ) im talking Crimnal law. How many people do you think have ever been put in jail for hacking their xbox, or using a game genie with their Nintendo... i mean come on seriously ?? is this what we are going to let our legal systems get to?
Fair use deals with copyright, this is about terms of use, i.e. a service.

This is hardly the first case that has implications in the software world, the concept of intellectual property and leased software. I don't think this is the beginning of the end. It may be a landmark on the slippery slope, but it isn't the beginning or the end.

This is not a matter for criminal law, so I'm not even sure why you mention it. This is civil liability.

Have you ever stopped to read a lease? For your apartment, or perhaps a home owners agreement? Blizzard is protecting the service they provide, not the game they sell/lease to you. They are establishing control over what you can do when you "rent" time on their systems. There plenty of things I can legally do that I am prohibited from doing by the lease I signed for my apartment, but I'm not calling the ALCU about it. The building owner has a right to protect their property. Blizzard has a right to protect it's service, including the marketability of said service.

If you want to discuss this and its legal ramifications, please refrain from using scare tactics and spreading false information.

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