Macaroon

[dbick]

I would like to start a discussion about Macaroon. I read about it in another thread about how is was a great bar mod and that it is very multibox friendly. Since the patch is in and allot of things had changed, I decided that now would be a great time to learn how to use a bar mod (been tri-boxing on the default bars since I started).

So far I am very impressed with Macaroon, however, it seems fairly complicated to me and I am afraid I am missing out on some of its great functionality. I have a list of a few basic questions.

1. I have not been able to figure out how to make a "stance bar" for my druid. Yes I have looked at the developers FAQ and he does describe how this works but I must be missing something. When I click on a form, lets say bear form, both bars (the stance bar and the paged bar that I created below it) disappear. I haven't figured out how to get the bear form actions onto the paged bar since that bar goes away when I exit bar edit mode. Has anyone here had success at setting up a druid with Macaroon? I would very much like some advice if so.

2.It seems there is a way to set each bar to have a target? (this made me very excited when I first saw this for Mbox reasons) Does this mean that if you create a bar and set its target to "focus" that all spells in that bar will be cast on your focus? I tried setting that up last night and it didn't seem to work for me like I thought it would.

Anyways, there are probably a few more questions that I could come up with but those are the most important for now.

What other cool functions of Macaroon have you found that makes your Mbox experience easier? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Frosty]

I won't be much help with your questions, but I'd like to see the answers too.

I just started messing around with Macaroon last night. I managed to get 1 of my accounts set back up, and all the binds re-set.
I was using bongos before..and I was just too lazy to change to Trinity. But I really like that you can create macros in each button.
I'm trying to get used to the whole mouse-wheel used to set up everything..thing. But it's growing on me.

[Goat666]

I can only help you with your first question :

How i did it for my druid : Right click the minimap button. Select Create new Bar. In the middle of your screen there is a new blue bar visible. Right click on it to show its menu Select Stance bar. Click on Button count and use your mouse scroll to determine how many buttons you want.
Press done when you are ready... As you can see your bar has switched its name.. instead of Bar 1- Normal. Its should now be called Bar 1 - Caster Form. Simply select Dire bear form from your spellbook. The bar will change into.. bar1 - Dire bear from and your gonna need to set the amount of buttons again. Do this for every form/stance and you should be all set.

For question number 2 : i have no clue and would like to know myself aswell :P

[Marious]

Was messing with it and was gonna put a thread up on it and ask questions myself, it took me a while to set it up but I cant even seem to set up the first part and assign it to be my main bar with all the cast buttons on it.

Will continue to mess with it when I got time but for now just using Dominos the replacement for Bongos.

Macaroon in itself is a great bar and Maul the creator seems to MB himself and from what I saw yes its a great MB addon since it allows you to set up the bar to have you cast on the target-target, focus-target so technically takes out the whole setting up macros to cast on focus or if you have your main selected just cast what ever is on the bar on the target the main is targeting.

I am still playing around with it and I R kind of confused with it but slowly picking it up.

As you all mess with it please post what you find out

[dbick]

Thanks for your reply Goat, however, I am more confused now then ever. In your example you only make one new bar and that is for the stance itself. What about the abilities bar that is supposed to page along with it?

I was messing around with Macaroon a bit after my first post and I thought I had it figured out. Created 2 bars, bar 1 being the stance bar with 4 buttons for my 4 shapes (bear, cat, travel,tree). Created bar 2 under bar 1 with 10 buttons for each shapes abilities. With bar 1 reading "Bar 1 Caster form" right clicked it and linked it to bar 2 and set it to linked state page 1. With bar 1 reading "Bar 1 Dire Bear form" right clicked it and linked it to bar 2 with the link state set to page 2. I did this three more times, "Bar 1 cat form " linked to bar 2 linked state page 3 , "bar 1travel form" linked to bar 2 linked state page 4 and "bar 1 tree of life form" linked to bar 2 linked state page 5. Then I exited out of edit mode and shaped into each form, each time dragging that form abilities to bar 2. The problem is that bar 2 isn't paging. When I click on dire bear form, bar 2 isn't changing to page 2.

I also played around a bit with setting a bars "target" . I created a new bar with just one button for now. Set that new bars target to "mouseover" . Exit edit mode and that new bar totally dissappears until you mouseover someone, then the new bar shows up with an empty button, With some tricky positioning I was able to mouseover a player while dragging my healing touch to that button. Next I set that buttions bind to key 1. Now I was hoping that when I moused over another player and hit key 1 that I would automatically cast healing touch on that person, However, I only got the "blue" glove icon. I again have set something up wrong.

I hope that since the Author (Maul) says that hes is a multiboxer that he visits these forums and can help us out with a tutorial or something. This mod has got great potential and I don't wanna give up on it yet.

[Metalocalypse]

Hm, I just tried to set it up.

It was easy enough to create a bar with buttons, but I couldn't for the life figure out how to 'drag n drop' spells onto it. It just didn't accept it.
I have this version: Macaroon_30000.beta.22.7 .. not sure if that's the one I need to have.

:S

[Macaroon]

Hello all, Maul here...yeah I have been lurking for a bit. Unfortunately for me "Maul" is taken on this forum X(

Anyhow, I will try and answer some of the questions here.

@dbick - #1 - Macaroon, like its predessessor Trinity, is a different beast than other bar addons. Each state contains its own unique set of buttons. Therefore, in order for there to be buttons when you switch states, you must add them to that state. This allows each button to be unique and offer much flexibility.

#2 - Bar targeting used to be a simple matter, at least in Trinity In Macaroon, any button set to type "action" will follow the target set for the bar. However, macros only follow the targeting via the macro code they contain. So, that means you can have a bar hide/show based on unit existence, but any macro buttons on that bar will need to be written for that target...unless, of course, you set the buttons to type "action"

@Metalocalypse - When you are in an edit mode, the buttons have special frames covering them for editing purposes. Spells currently cannot be placed on them while in an edit mode. Once out of edit mode, it should not be an issue. I will be adding a feature when you pickup a spell or macro, the special frames will hide themselves temporarily.

Please note that Macaroon is still a "beta" addon. I am still working on getting all features working fully.

[Anjuna]

Just wanna say that Macaroon is working great. Been using it since tues and it was the first new mod that worked. Thanks!

[Schwarz]

sweet gotta love it when developers are reachable via this site

[Jheusse]

I'm glad you're here Maul, I just spent at least 2 hours trying to get a grasp on how to set up Macaroon. I've read all the FAQs and all 8 pages of the forum thread (didn't try the 41 pages of comments though).

I've never used any bar other than default Blizzard, so I'm way behind the curve at configuring this. I'm going to an action bar mod for three reasons:

1 - supporting my shammy team now they're getting to have more spells they use than I have on the base bar.

2- Making me more effective on my raiding feral

3- And shaping the bar to mimic my belkin n52te.

Is there an idiot's guide or a tutorial? I was able to create a bar that was 4x3 to match my speedpad, set it to paged (is that correct?) and set the other 5 bars to the same shape. Switched to bind and bound 1 thru = to page 1 bar 1, then managed to get into a mode where I could drag chain lightning to the slot corresponding to the same number on the blizzard bar, and it came up showing the icon for attack. Fought with it for a while and logged out in frustration.

Several hours to get the addon with sub-addons into all the right directories, but most of it was fighting to make one stinking bar on the main toon of my 4 shammy team.

Tooltips, helpfiles, tutorials, "Hey Stupid!" Diaries, help? A link to the old trinity "owner's manual"? I'm burning RAF and may have to brute force on the default bars to get my teams finished and then go back and try again.