All heroics cleared 5 boxing

[Bigfish]

And I'm responding to that topic, specifically by pointing out the statement that says "So, if anyone says something isn't boxable - they're wrong." maintains a certain degree of unspoken assumptions which may or may not apply to any given individual.

[Kaynin]

A lazy person, a weak-minded person that gives up after one go, a boxer playing 5 holy priests, or whatever.

Yes, ofcourse not everyone can clear all heroics.

Common sense however tells us it is achievable nonetheless.

[Bigfish]

And even then I'd say it's boxable for any 5 man set up that has a set up that can work in heroics as 5 individial chars as well.

It might require a bit more planning, a few more macro's, a more diverse UI, multiple profiles potentially and more time required to put into achieving heroics. But not impossible!

boxing 10 different classes is a whole feat in its own. Respect for giving that a go. I'd love to try it out myself if it wasn't for the fact that I'm a terrible leveler and already lack time as it is to play on my quad-box. Just never think something is impossible to do. Because I don't think that ever really will. Hard and time consuming, I can imagine tho. :P

Either way, 75% of how effective a multiboxer can be, regardless of which classes he boxes, is all about proper setting up and macro's, in my opinion. I think you can agree on that as a 10-boxer.

Oh absolutely. The entirety of a multi-class group is the set up and execution. There are just discrepencies in how it gets done versus a 4 shaman group, namely, the popular strategy of quickly burning down a boss and ignoring certain aspects of the fight will work with some groups, and not with others.

Like I said in the other thread, no one should argue as to whats impossible, becuase it's quite easy to prove them wrong. My corrallary to that is just because its possible for one doesn't make it possible for all.

[Bigfish]

A lazy person, a weak-minded person that gives up after one go, a boxer playing 5 holy priests, or whatever.

Yes, ofcourse not everyone can clear all heroics.

Common sense however tells us it is achievable nonetheless.

Right, there's no helping some situations, but given that the person meets some minimal level, they should be able to accomplish the feat. What I'm focusing on is the potential to clear something with a reasonable group and establish the general area between the omptimized group (tank and 4 shamans) and the minimized group (5 naked holy priests).

Its great Alemi has cleared all heroic dungeons. Props to them, especially if its a community first as Ellay suggested. Now I want to know if we have a melee-boxer who's done it, or a druid boxer, or any of the myriad other combinations we have floating out there.

[Hachoo]

I would assume that the actual point of the thread was to say that boxing all heroics is possible. Nothing more. Nothing more specific than that. This makes sense because there are lots of people that constantly tell me "Oh no one will ever be able to 5 box such and such because its just too hard". Now we can say "Wrong."

[Bigfish]

Oh. Right. Darn my tendency to over-read things and push for deeper meaning.

[Aradar]

Very nice!!!! Wooot Possibly a multiboxer first ~!

I haven't touched Oculus at all since like the day after I hit 80, is the mount /follow change something that made this place much more enjoyable?

God, yes. It was awful before. Without follow I'd say it be nearly impossible. Now, it's pretty easy. I just took a while cause I was dead set in getting one of the void achievements

The other one that was holding me up for a while was Bronzebeard in HoS, but after figuring out how to do it easily it's cake now (first cleared it last week and then cleared it again for the Sjonir achievement, and a 3rd time for the daily).

Mind filling us in on the Bronzebeard Event? For the life of me I cannot get past this event at all.

I'd like to know this myself. I don't really need anything from there, much less Old Kingdom and Oculous so I haven't given them much of a try but if you've got a way to make HoS "cake", I'm all ears. Honestly, I think I could complete HoS and OK with some changes but don't really see the point since I don't need gear from either one. Oculus on the other hand is way above my head especially, again, since I don't need anything from there. :P

Edit: While were at it, any secrets to the Safety Dance? I've had the luxury of taking several of my toons in there and lose the /followers every time. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[Alemi]

forgive me for being dumb, but i havent been able to get mount following to work, can someone post a walkthru!? =)

You can't follow the player when in a vehicle. i.e. /follow Playername

However, /follow party1 works just fine. It's the same thing I use when making a GY run too (since i use a nodead qualifier in my follow macro so if my main dies I can switch to the next in line)

Actually this is wrong, you can do /follow PlayerName. I know this because this is how my guild does Malygos. All you have to do is type it out, and you're set. Now how you'd do the cast rotation for Oculus, well I'm not sure about that one.

Perhaps, I've never tried typing it out. How this differs from the regular /follow PlayerName - makes no sense to me.

Either way, in occulus, a /follow PlayerName macro gives the error message "You cannot follow that unit" - /follow party1 works just fine.

[Alemi]

But not impossible.

Depends. Some encounters *cough* Oculus*cough* really punish some set ups *hackcough*melee*hack*.

Not that any encounter is necesarily impossible, but 4 shamans and a tank doesn't cover every possible boxing configuration.

Number 1 - as was said by other posters, I made no supposition that EVERY combination of classes could box heroics. Never. That's something you inferred. What I said was that they are boxable. I used to run 5 shaman, there's no way I'd have this success with that setup. I thought this would be obvious.

Number 2 - If you're boxing melee that's your own call, but it can be more difficult (on most encounters - before someone takes that out of context) than boxing tank/3 ranged dps/1 healer. However, there are equally as many encounters that are extremely ranged UNfriendly, or more difficult.

[Aradar]

boxing tank/3 ranged dps/1 healer

I checked your toons on armory and saw tank/4 ranged dps. Do you generally run heroics with one as a healer?