Setting a New Leader Upon Death

[amalgam]

Hmm....I might give that a shot. That would leave Focus open to Poly/Dispel/Fear.

[Vodka]

If all your dps macros are like:

/cast [target=focustarget] Shadow Bolt;

then you can just leave the target open for use as focus in the older macros.

Check it:

#show Seduction
/assist [target=target,noexists]; [target=target,dead] focus
/petstay
/petfollow
/stopcasting
/cast [pet:succubus,target=target,exists,harm] Seduction; Seduction


Should work, I'll go test it now.

[Xzin]

Xzin, you raided on Mag, right? How'd that work out for you?

My guild shafted me because nearly everybody was a loot whore and greedy. They figured 5 characters but 1 person means 1 roll or 1 set of DKP. Even though I took up 5 slots, had 5x repair bills, was paying attention the whole time and was the main reason outdoor bosses always went so well if alliance were going for it too. Something about 5 /random 100 x5 - but mostly just bc they wanted more loot for themselves. This even took place in ZG from time to time, when I was literally 1/4 of the raid - and ZG was not exactly high end. If I were to raid again, I would make it clear that 5 characters = 5 characters, boxing or not. If they don't like it then I will raid elsewhere.

In the high end raiding guilds I was in (pre-BC) there was always a level of drama about loot and raid slots, etc. Imagine if a mage and a priest were both controled by one person, and then the rest of the raid finds out they're both the SAME person, and both got gear drops that night. Emo-explosion!

Technically, it should be no different from two individual players (as you pointed out, its better) but the kiddy loot-whore drama queens just can't handle it. Especially if you're giving up multiple raid slots to one person.

I can *maybe* buy the raid slots argument. But then people see you as the buffer slots. Meaning one of you gets the boot when a "real" player gets on (sometimes 2 hours after the raid started). In short, the drama queens can get bent. You have 5 accounts. You pay for 5. You have 5x their repair bills. You should get loot on all 5. Period. Not be a placeholder or only able to roll on stuff as 4 "alts".

[amalgam]

Zin, I would agree with you for the most part. There are loot whores everywhere you go.

The funny part about that situation is the polar opposite responses you seem to get in PvE and PvP: every Horde group wanted you in their BG, while, conversely, you seem to have been reviled in raids.

You were in Sedition or Without Remorse, right?

[Xzin]

Exiled

and there was a line a mile long for my WSG groups.

Makes me sad that humans are so selfish. ALL of that loot has been replaced anyway.

The only "to be fair" caveat: Naxx was impossible to 5 box. At least on most fights. One false move = wiped raid. So I just took Xzin.

But BWL, Ony, MC, ZG, everything else really, I cleaned up on.

[amalgam]

I had some Guildmates in Vent that would go "shit, the Zins are here. I'll be AFK." This was before the cross-realm BGs and all the following (read: 200 times worse than Mag's) QQing about you. Funny shit.

PvP was never my thing anyway; I was only on Mag to hang with two former friends of mine.

[doc]

This is the script i use,, Basicaly as above, i t checks on the nodead condition, but with the same token also checks with the exists condintion, so u can basically have 5 or 4 or 3... etc,, chars out, the macros would still work finr.. And when the main dies, it automatically takes the next char to be the new main... and so on...

/assist [target=redßull, exists, nodead] [target=Lice, exists, nodead] [target=Tiç, exists, nodead] [target=Toç, exists, nodead]
/focus target
/stopmacro [target=focus, noexists]
/target target
/startattack
/cast Lightning Bolt

this is my follow macro..

/stand
/target [target=redßull,exists,nodead][target=Lice,exists,nodead][target=Tiç,exists,nodead][target=Toç,exists, nodead][target=Toyz,exists,nodead]
/follow target

this is my heal macro (with cojuction HEALBOT addon to target char on low health).. Note, the main targets the toon by clicking on his healbot bar. then immidiately u can cast this macro to heal that toon.. And because of focus wich was set by the assist mascro (above) the group will not loose the mob target,
However because of ping server lag, sometimes the cast goes to the wrong target,, so, just spamm it twice the first spam will set the target, then the second will heal the currect toon.. U might loose a fraction of a sec longer to get the heal off. but it works fine for me especially as i have all 5 shammies casting a lower lvl (faster) heal spell. which is both more mana efficient and less agro generating.. (anyway, i hope that makes sense.)

/stopcasting
/assist [target=redßull, exists, nodead] [target=Lice, exists, nodead] [target=Tiç, exists, nodead] [target=Toç, exists, nodead] [target=Toyz, exists, nodead]
/cast [target=target, help] Healing Wave(rank 3)
/target [target=focus]

[hxc]

Doc, I like the idea for using healbot for group heals

I've been wondering how I could use healbot to make my whole group/healers heal someone in my group without using up 5 or so hotkeys , and using target like that had passed me by :lol: Very helpful, thanks!

[Zseth]

/assist party1

upon death it doesn't matter if I don't have to move I continue to select targets while dead and they still assist.

if I have to its just promoting the next guy in line to group leader and he becomes party1

Works well