zomg awesome sauce new assisting system but follow needs some tuning! [works good now!]

[blast3r]

Using a system like this isn't as redundant as FTL is. I know how important being at maximum efficiency is for you! Using the system you describe one toon has to die before another takes over. However, if that main toon gets stunned or incapacitated you are dead in the water until it is killed. Just my thoughts.

[Ellay]

and 'help' fixes this? :P

[Owltoid]

Using a system like this isn't as redundant as FTL is. I know how important being at maximum efficiency is for you! Using the system you describe one toon has to die before another takes over. However, if that main toon gets stunned or incapacitated you are dead in the water until it is killed. Just my thoughts.

While I agree that a FTL system is more redundant, I can't envision many situations where this new method will fail.

If your leader is stunned ot incapacitated, you can still /assist. You're correct that follow wouldn't help, but what type of situations do you use /follow in the middle of combat where stuns are possible? Usually I broadcast movement keys in combat and only use follow if it's a boss that requires constant movement. Even with FTL I likely wouldn't switch to a slave as long as the master is still alive. Please note that I am extremely unaccomplished in the MB world and I have a ton to learn.

The only situation I can see where this would truly fail is where you lose all control of the lead (mind control). I'm not sure if the "help" conditional would work or not (I don't know if it's actually called "help", but I'm looking for the opposite of "harm").

[blast3r]

Using a system like this isn't as redundant as FTL is. I know how important being at maximum efficiency is for you! Using the system you describe one toon has to die before another takes over. However, if that main toon gets stunned or incapacitated you are dead in the water until it is killed. Just my thoughts.

While I agree that a FTL system is more redundant, I can't envision many situations where this new method will fail.

If your leader is stunned ot incapacitated, you can still /assist. You're correct that follow wouldn't help, but what type of situations do you use /follow in the middle of combat where stuns are possible? Usually I broadcast movement keys in combat and only use follow if it's a boss that requires constant movement. Even with FTL I likely wouldn't switch to a slave as long as the master is still alive. Please note that I am extremely unaccomplished in the MB world and I have a ton to learn.

The only situation I can see where this would truly fail is where you lose all control of the lead (mind control). I'm not sure if the "help" conditional would work or not (I don't know if it's actually called "help", but I'm looking for the opposite of "harm").

In PVP i end up having to do this fairly often. Any kind of movement imparing cast on your main then they run behind you and you have to pretty much wait until the main is unstuck or dead. I usually switch to my other main then hit ghost wolf to get some distance and pew pew.

[zanthor]

Opposite of harm is noharm

Any conditional can be prefixed with no

[FunkStar]

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding it here but.. why not just use

/cast [target=Aelli-target,nodead,exists][target=Aellie-target,nodead,exists][target=Aellii-target,nodead,exists]Lightning Bolt

Not tested it just now, but I remember using something similar. Then u got both ur focus and target free

[Kaynin]

This is similar to the set up I started out on, conventional target based system. Works pretty decent but I often had problems with it.

I swear to FTL myself now, but it's a pain to set up across multiple pc's tho. (but not impossible). Still, FTL really has no way of messing up imo! At least not my FTL set up.

Anyhow, this should work much better.

/target [target=Aellie, nodead][target=Aelli, nodead]
/Follow

[FunkStar]

problem with ftl is for people that use different box groups constantly, main reason i keep using focus because it allows me to do everything with anyone.

(tank + 4 shaman, tank + 3 shamans + priest, 5 shamans, 4 shamans + hunter, etc)

[Kaynin]

Hmm, doesn't seem much of a problem to me.


Suppose you have 5 shamans a dk and a priest. Sometimes going 5x shammy, or 4x shammy tank, or 3x shammy priest and tank

you could just set up a large ftl macro (would need macaroon as otherwise you will most surely reach limit) and do ftl alt macro's like this.

These would be a standard FTL macro set, but we need to change that then:

First:
/target [nomod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Second][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Third][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Fourth][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Fifth]
Second:
/target [nomod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=First][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Third][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Fourth][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Fifth]



You designate your 5 man party in First through fifth (based on which account the character is on). For example

DK -> First
Shaman1 -> First
Shaman2 -> Second
Shaman3 -> Third
Shaman4 -> Fourth
Shaman5 -> Fifth
Priest -> Fifth

You make five keymappings, for each of the five designated groups. Then based on the names, your new FTL macro's will look like this.

First:
/target [nomod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shaman2][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Shaman3][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shaman4][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shaman5, exists][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Priest, exists]
Second:
/target [nomod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=DK, exists][nomod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Shaman1, exists][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Shaman3][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shaman4][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shaman5, exists][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Priest, exists]



I mean, I'm like 99% certain that will work. As long as you assing each character to a designated 'partyslot' for your FTL. I don't use a system like this as I have a stationary box myself. But this should give you FTL without having to worry on which characters you box with.

And you would most likely need Macaroon to stay in macro character limit.

[FunkStar]

thought of that, problem is it still requires you to have shammy '1' as main all the time.

I often box 2, 3, 4 in naxx or so, depending on what is needed and who is saved. Any shaman can be my main without a problem with the focus setup. Sometimes hunter/healer is the main, sometimes they are the alts, etc.

But it's not really an issue for me, as I never use my focus. I never CC or so when doing instances, and if I'd have to i just have my /assist focus macros set up on each char on a different button so i can assign them a target for cc'ing, as my main attacks dont use /assist, but /cast [target=focustarget,harm].

On top of that macaroon is not an option for me, as there is something wrong with it that makes my fps go down from 40 to 1-2 in 25 man raids in combat.