Which classes to "RAF level grant" to complete my squad

[Nyth]

This is not really Group Composition, but ultimately comes down to it, so I put this topic here. Feel free to move it if needed (and sorry if I misplaced it)

Ok, here is the idea :

I had two accounts (which combined would have one toon of all 10 classes over 60), and I have opened 3 more to 5-box. So far, I have leveled a team (pally + 4 shammies) and I am currently lvling 5 boomkins, all to 60. I also intend to lvl up 5 DK's to 60, which will be done in a breeze with RAF.

I know for sure that after that, I will not have the will to start over once again. That should be taken as an hypothesis.

I have 60 lvls to spend on Account 1 (29+29+2) and 120 lvls on Account 2 (same breakdown x2). I have done my math and with minimum effort I can climb 4 (1+3) toons to 60 by only lvling them to 20 first, or even 6 toon if I don't crack (I really hate those starting areas now ) before I bring them to lvl 30.

Here are all my toons at the moment (all over 60 or soon to be):

• 2 Pallies
• 5 Shammies
• 6 Druids
• 5 DK
• 1 Mage
• 1 Warrior
• 1 Rogue
• 1 Priest
• 1 Lock
• 1 Hunter

I was thinking I would grant levels in priority for mages, then hunters and lesser priority would be for warriors and rogues. One other important precision, I don't pvp that much. It's not something I really enjoy, so my teams would mainly be pve.

Any suggestions on how to use best the 4 to 6 level grants I have ? I know there's probably no unique answer (and there's also a chance I will never use these toons anyway) but I'd like to have a feeling which toons would complete my current squad nicely.

Cheers,
Nyth

[Owltoid]

I know you tried to spell it out clearly, but I'm unsure how your accounts link up to each other.

I believe you can only grant 30 levels per account (not 30 per toon leveled to 60 on that account). Somehow you have 180 levels to grant which would lead me to believe you have 6 different RAF accounts. Is this true?

[Nyth]

To clarify things, here is my RAF linkage :

Acc1 <--- Acc3
Acc2 <--- Acc4 + Acc5

I will have leveled two teams from 0 to 60 and the DKs from 55 to 60, so if I am correct, I will be able to grant :

On Acc1 : 29+29+2 levels (thanks to Acc3) = 60 levels
On Acc2 : 29+29+2 levels (thanks to Acc4) and 29+29+2 levels (thanks to Acc5) = 120 levels

The number of levels to be granted is based on a toon, not per account (as I have experienced when RAF dualboxing), e.g. if you level 5 toons from 0 to 60, you will be able to grant 5x29 levels on your "parent" account.

Hope it clears things up

[Owltoid]

...The number of levels to be granted is based on a toon, not per account (as I have experienced when RAF dualboxing), e.g. if you level 5 toons from 0 to 60, you will be able to grant 5x29 levels on your "parent" account...

It is my understanding that this is definitely not correct. The account doesn't keep track of how many levels you have "earned." It is apparently against the rules, but you could techinically transfer a 60+ to a new account that has implemented RAF and begin granting levels immediately. In other words, you never earned any levels on that account so I'm not sure where the hidden counter keeping track would come into play. Also, I and others have stated that once you grant your 29 or 30 levels, that's it...

Are you absolutely positive that it works this way because I think many would disagree.

[Nyth]

Hmm, now you make me doubt, but yeah this is how I did it in the first place when I was dualboxing.

I leveled :

• pally (recruiter) + mage ("friend")
• druid (recruiter) + shammy ("friend")

Then with that I could level up toon from 0 to 60 by first granting levels on it from the mage, then from the shammy...

I think I have read somewhere that there is an hidden counter that increases every two levels. So transferring a 60+ toon would give nothing. And also transferring the toon you leveled to another account would make him lose its levels grants as well.

Any third opinion / experience on this to settle the subject ?

[Owltoid]

Hmm, now you make me doubt, but yeah this is how I did it in the first place when I was dualboxing.

I leveled :

• pally (recruiter) + mage ("friend")
• druid (recruiter) + shammy ("friend")

Then with that I could level up toon from 0 to 60 by first granting levels on it from the mage, then from the shammy...

I think I have read somewhere that there is an hidden counter that increases every two levels. So transferring a 60+ toon would give nothing. And also transferring the toon you leveled to another account would make him lose its levels grants as well.

Any third opinion / experience on this to settle the subject ?

Transferring a 60+ absolutely allows you to grant levels immediately. Please note, this may be against the rules.

Some time back it seemed that there was a RAF reset. In other words, some accounts were able to grant levels again, even if they used up their levels before. It happened to me and I was confused as to why. I thought it was because in the time between when I granted levels and the time when my toon hit 80, I had accumulated more levels to gift. However, after doing research it seemed the Blizzard reset everything and many, including myself, benefited from it.

I'm 100% certain that you can transfer a 60+ to a new account that is RAF linked and gift levels (again, not legal but somewhat proves there is no internal counter as to "earned" levels).

I'm 99.9% certain that the number of levels you can gift is based on account, and not by the number of levels you've earned. Otherwise you would have a ton of people constantly leveling toons from 1-10, using their high level toon to grant levels, and repeating the process.

[Nyth]

I'm 99.9% certain that the number of levels you can gift is based on account, and not by the number of levels you've earned. Otherwise you would have a ton of people constantly leveling toons from 1-10, using their high level toon to grant levels, and repeating the process.

That, I'm sure you can't do as you can only grant levels with the toon you leveled on your "friend account" and the toon you grant the level must be a lower level than you are.

So with a lvl10 toon you could grant levels for toon less than lvl 9 on your parent account, which would be not so interesting

Hypothetically assuming it is possible, Owltoid, any suggestion on which 4-6 toons would complete my existing toons best ?

[Owltoid]

It seems like you already have some of the popular classes accounted for (shamans, DKs, and druids). You already have so much to work with that I'd look for "fun" combos you may want to try later on. I personally think mage groups and hunter groups could be fun.

[Nyth]

Yep, I guess you're right, there is still quite a lot of work to be done on the main teams (shammies / druids / DKs). I was just thinking ahead a bit, as I have levels to grant which will be over if I wait till I'm finished leveling and equipping these 3 teams!

Your advice on "fun" should be the one to follow. It still opens quite a lot of opportunities :

• 4x fury wawa charging their prey + a heal
• 4x shadowstepping rogues could be fun also ^_^
• ...

This topic was kinda thought to help me identify good combos and those who look good on paper but are not (e.g. maybe my example on rogues is a bad idea after all because of the position dependant skills of the finesse branch)...

[Chranny]

I'm 99.9% certain that the number of levels you can gift is based on account, and not by the number of levels you've earned. Otherwise you would have a ton of people constantly leveling toons from 1-10, using their high level toon to grant levels, and repeating the process.

Seems a little contradicting.
If the levels you would able to grant was indeed based per-account, people would be leveling 1-10 to get 5 free levels.
It is my findings and experience that says it's done on a character-to-character basis which means only the toon going from 1-10 will be able to grant 5 free levels to the recruits character/any charater on the friends account below or at the same levels as the recruitees(sp?) character.