Bløød DK's Clear Drak'Tharon Keep!!!

[Zerocool2024]

very cool! Like the video. I finished most of Zuldrak today(questing) and plowed through Gun and DK with a few deaths(I suck! /cry). How are you liking the deeper blood? One thing I noticed when I respec'd my guys for more healing is their dps blows chunks(800ish per slave was over 1k dps per slave at 72, lol.) However I haven't done a "clean" dps meter in a while. My guys are all 77 now, woot flyers.[/font]

What are you using for your Rotation?
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]


I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...


edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom


So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.

Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.

Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?

[Varmon]

very cool! Like the video. I finished most of Zuldrak today(questing) and plowed through Gun and DK with a few deaths(I suck! /cry). How are you liking the deeper blood? One thing I noticed when I respec'd my guys for more healing is their dps blows chunks(800ish per slave was over 1k dps per slave at 72, lol.) However I haven't done a "clean" dps meter in a while. My guys are all 77 now, woot flyers.[/font]

What are you using for your Rotation?
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]


I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...


edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom


So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.

Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.

Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]

You can use /castrandom with null spots followed by /cast or /castsequence for some psudo priority logic, it's not a perfect solution but it can be made to work "ok" in some situations


/castrandom rune strike,
/castsequence blah, blah, blah, etc

when you hit the null spot, you pass through to the castsequence

Keep up the awesome vids 8)

[Multibocks]

very cool! Like the video. I finished most of Zuldrak today(questing) and plowed through Gun and DK with a few deaths(I suck! /cry). How are you liking the deeper blood? One thing I noticed when I respec'd my guys for more healing is their dps blows chunks(800ish per slave was over 1k dps per slave at 72, lol.) However I haven't done a "clean" dps meter in a while. My guys are all 77 now, woot flyers.[/font]

What are you using for your Rotation?
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]

I avoid runestrike as I dont want to be rune starved if I need a certain ass-saving ability that requires rune energy. I guess I could use it, I just dont like to think I might not have runic when I need it. Besides thats only my tank, it really doesnt help my slaves that are almost exactly the same dps... lol.


I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...


edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom


So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.

Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.

Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]

WTF it ate my reply.

I dont use rune strike, because I worry that I wont have runic power available when I need it as a tank for ass-saving abilities. But really it only benefits the tank, the slaves are almost the same dps (slightly higher) and my tank is mostly frost and geared like a tank... I dont think they should be that close.

P.S. My guys are 78 now and starting Storm Peaks for the first time, I skipped it on my first crew since they hit 80 in Icecrown. I am going to try Halls of Lightning when I get a chance. I cant right now as my GF is home in a few minutes and hates WoW. =)

[Furystrike]

If you get bored....between clearing Drak'Tharon or Gundrak go over the the Argent Defender area in Zul'Drak and kill the opposing faction. It is quite fun. Kill the guards while you are at it and you will vacate the premises of any "red" names in a hurry - LOL. Oh, cleared Gundrak without a problem. Will post the video later. 0 deaths on the bosses. Died once to trash when I accidentally disabled key broadcasts - WHOOPSIE!!! Lol.

[Zerocool2024]

very cool! Like the video. I finished most of Zuldrak today(questing) and plowed through Gun and DK with a few deaths(I suck! /cry). How are you liking the deeper blood? One thing I noticed when I respec'd my guys for more healing is their dps blows chunks(800ish per slave was over 1k dps per slave at 72, lol.) However I haven't done a "clean" dps meter in a while. My guys are all 77 now, woot flyers.[/font]

What are you using for your Rotation?
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]


I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...


edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom


So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.

Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.

Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]

You can use /castrandom with null spots followed by /cast or /castsequence for some psudo priority logic, it's not a perfect solution but it can be made to work "ok" in some situations


/castrandom rune strike,
/castsequence blah, blah, blah, etc

when you hit the null spot, you pass through to the castsequence

Keep up the awesome vids 8)[/quote]You know... wow, that just gave me a crazy idea on how to setup my macros.

I've just been using /castsequence the whole time, but now that I came across the /click post and then went to Wiki Macro something clicked... no pun intended. I'm at work again.. stupid Mandatory Saturdays. I will wait till I get home before divulging what I "think" may work for the better. 8)

[Multibocks]

Do tell!

[Souca]

Simple fix for the Rune Strike

/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, .....
/cast !Rune Strike

Since Rune Strike doesn't trigger a GCD, you can add it to the end of any macro. The ! means don't toggle it, just turn it on. So basically if there is a Rune Strike up, you'll use it on you next swing.

Here is an actual macro I use on my DK. It's no the greatest DPS, but it's her self heal for soloing old world raid bosses spam macro.

#showtooltip
/startattack
/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Obliterate, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike
/cast Blood Tap
/cast !Rune Strike

I use the Icebound Fort glyph so I never have to worry about RP for that. I pretty much count on my RP getting used up for Rune Strike and if I top off, I throw a DC in there.

You guys are making me think about leveling a 5 team of DKs. Is there a post with more info on what you're running and how you've got things set up?

- Souca -

[Zerocool2024]

Simple fix for the Rune Strike

/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, .....
/cast !Rune Strike

Since Rune Strike doesn't trigger a GCD, you can add it to the end of any macro. The ! means don't toggle it, just turn it on. So basically if there is a Rune Strike up, you'll use it on you next swing.

Here is an actual macro I use on my DK. It's no the greatest DPS, but it's her self heal for soloing old world raid bosses spam macro.

#showtooltip
/startattack
/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Obliterate, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike
/cast Blood Tap
/cast !Rune Strike

I use the Icebound Fort glyph so I never have to worry about RP for that. I pretty much count on my RP getting used up for Rune Strike and if I top off, I throw a DC in there.

You guys are making me think about leveling a 5 team of DKs. Is there a post with more info on what you're running and how you've got things set up?

- Souca -

Funny you should mention that... There is something in the works. We will have it to you shortly.

Also, thanks for the Rune Strike thing, I for some reason kept reading it wrong, and I have no idea why I was doing that, I kept on thinking that it if I parried and or whatever, and used it on the next attack than that "attack" has the added damage from Rune Strike. I have no idea why I read it that way, because I kept on looking at the description.

I came across the !Rune Strike, but kept thinking the above. Lol. Not the first time I've done that.

[Souca]

Yea. For the longest time I wasn't sure if Rune Strike worked when I parried or when the mob parried. I think the original tooltip just said "when an attack is parried or dodged". I kept wondering who it was that parried or dodged.

As for the writeups, I saw a spec from one of the posts, and I'm just gonna see if I can't make it work. I have my 80 DK to base a lot of my guesses on. Only thing I'm pondering now is which race to use for alliance on a PvP server. Draenei self heal vs human PvP trinket vs nelf shadowmeld.

- Souca -

[Multibocks]

I regret not taking orcs, because I clearly dont care about pvp. 5% more pet damage and the bonus for using axes.... sigh.