ive never had arena as a goal with boxing, some people can do it very well, but me i just have never liked it, not solo not boxing just hate what arena did to pvp,

with a pretty well geared DK was planning on just takeing 4 shaman with me to 80 rather than 5, so that i could farm heroics for badges turn them in for savage gear,

battlegrounds is what i love and thats where i have the most fun, so if your saying that we can still do pretty well i think ill start seriously consider getting the group up to scratch, i dont think i would try anything too serious pvp wise till i was above the 500 res mark and a titansteel mace on each shaman.

how long should i expect the 70-80 to take, i did it in about 6-8 hours per level on my dk, i was really takeing my time with no guides or prior knowledge of the content did take alot longer than when burning crusade came out, i was also thinking rather than quest just to instance grind, questing would be great if it wasnt for the collection quests and there is just so many in wrath it was the biggest put off.

thanks for takeing the time to respond magwo