When to stop gathering haste?

[Alemi]

This post makes even less sense than your first one. I'm starting to think you don't understand how any of this works. You're saying haste is worthless if you don't use it to squeeze an extra LB in before a LvB? While I agree being able to do that is nice, its only a small part of haste helping out elemental shamans. Just because I use castrandom and don't squeeze in 5 LBs between LvBs doesn't mean the haste doesn't SPEED UP all of my casts, making my Chain Heals faster, making all casts faster therefore getting in more casts over the course of a boss fight then I would get in without haste.

The bottom line is, castrandom with 0 haste vs castrandom with 15% haste is a HUGE difference. castrandom with 30% crit vs castrandom with 40% crit is a difference also but I disagree that its anywhere near as much of a difference as the haste.

Your posts make you sound elitist except the fact that they're extremely narrow views and not looking at even 25% of the picture much less the whole picture.

The post makes complete sense if you think about it. But there's little arguing with you and your understanding of the situation.

Point being, there's no way to tell you what would be better, what cap you should attain since you have no rotation to ANALYZE. Example: A cast random rotation of LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LVB would benefit more from haste, whereas a random rotation of LVB, LB, LB, LB, LVB, CL, LB would benefit more from haste because in random rotation one, you don't have a guarnteed EO/Clearcast up, and you're relying on an early crit for clearcast, whereas the 2nd rotation would benefit from haste because you have a guarnteed EO and Clearcast early and you don't miss a LVB shot. Get it? I really can't see how to make this any clearer - you're adding a 2nd random factor of a spellcast, period. You ask a BLANKET question, expect a blanket answer, and when it can't be provided, with a clear reasoning why, you miss the point.

You faceroll on your keyboard with castrandom so there's no point in trying to min/max which is what your ORIGINAL question was asking. And, since we're sitting here making personal attacks, I'm not elitis; I just know what the hell I'm talking about. Your reasoning however sound ignorant and laughable because the thread title is "When to stop gathering haste?" Which would lead one to believe you're asking how to maximize your DPS, and it was said just a few posts above me.

castrandom benefits most from haste but it isn't the way to do the most dps.

I agree with Multibocks - haste has been debated over and over again on EJ. I've posted the same calculations there that have been posted here, and the CONCENSUS is, haste gives constant benefit without RNG and offers a more consistent dps increase. The dps #s I posted here are quite clear on that, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's little point in trying to debate hard math here. Look it up, do it yourself, test it on a dummy.