When to stop gathering haste?

[Alemi]

Using castrandom doesn't negate the benefits of Haste vs Crit, not sure why you would say that.

Because your rotation is: "Whatever the RNG picks", it might be lb, lb, cl, lb, lvb, fs one fight then cl, lb, lvb, fs, fs, lb, cl the next who knows. The points that have been made are moot since you've just injected another sense of randomness to your own equation. What's in your cast random? Are you spamming it like has been suggested in previous posts?

Really, my point is, until you give us more information about your rotation or your castrandom and how you use it, there's no way anyone can tell you which one is better because the baseline of most dps theorycrafting, here and on other sites (like EJ where I post often) assume a standard rotation. Because rotation random #1 might benefit more from haste, but then rotation random #2 might benefit more from crit.

In all reality, you're probably just better stacking crit. The only real benefit elemental shamans get from haste is squeezing in another lightning bolt into the lvb rotation. Your dps increase would likely be marginal if you stacked enough of it since you're just throwing spells at random.

There are some fairly decent rules of thumb, like getting hit is a fairly safe bet until you're capped. Know why? No, it isn't because hit is just soooo awesome, it's because for its budget cost, it blows everything else away (meaning you will generally get more hit for a given piece of gear, so the upgrade will be greater). However, even these rules are subject to interpretation, and while I know I'm a pretty anal person about it, some of you could seriously use some education on the subject.

And to this point. The reason hit is so important for elemental shaman is that if you miss a flame shock, you don't crit a lava burst. If you miss a lava burst, you then don't get a guaranteed proc of clearcast and elemental oath. So, if you're not hit capped in a raid setting, you're relying a lot on RNG to put out continual significant dps.