Running 5x WoWs on a capped server using the latest intel X25 SSD

[Moorea]

Seems like Evilseed did indeed create his new alias "Mousecloner" ? wonder what kind of trojan is in there...

[Sam DeathWalker]

Evilseed does indeed have a website mousecloner.com and it seems a lot of work just for a trojan (his legal disclaimer would cost $1000 for an attorney to draw up), and the fact that the very name of the web site "mousecloner" would be hard to aqquire at this point (almost any combination of good words is taken).

He also says he is Tim Sullivan previous owner of wowhead (which I use every day). If in fact that is the case I would see little reason to doubt his claims as to anything.

I mean outside of the fact it took him longer then expected to release his software is there any particular reason to doubt his word at this point?

Also read his initial post, the simple fact he knows all this information well, why would someone aquire such knowledge just to post a trojan or whatever?

I did some digging into why these intel SSDs provide such a massive performance gain and it is all about the IOPS and seek times. The real strain on a PC is that running multiple wows, symlinked or not, requires a ton of random reads from random files. The more reads that exist, the lower your throughput will be. For example, while 1 read constant may yield you 100mbs, 10 reads will NOT yield you 10mbps per read. Rather, it'll do maybe 1.5mbps per read. The reason for the througput cut is the seek time latency. With my raid0/1 array using 4x x25e SSDs, I'm able to hit over 1000mb/s read *and* write, and can have 10,000 open file handlers reading/writing and still obtain over 400mbs. My wow multiboxing is now insane.

That observation does not appear incorrect on its face, and thats some advanced thinking actually.

[Lyonheart]

I'm glad things are coming to light. I feel bad for people that get accused of being something other than what they claim. Then you come to find out they are just what they said they were, and more ( previous owner of wowhead? wowzers! ) I love wowhead! I think we should loosen up just enough to let individuals judge for themselves and less bashing on public forums.

I understand the desire to "protect" the forum population for the "evil sheep in wolves' clothing, but there are more respectful, tactful ways of going about it 8) IMO

[Kural]

I'm glad things are coming to light. I feel bad for people that get accused of being something other than what they claim. Then you come to find out they are just what they said they were, and more ( previous owner of wowhead? wowzers! ) I love wowhead! I think we should loosen up just enough to let individuals judge for themselves and less bashing on public forums.

I understand the desire to "protect" the forum population for the "evil sheep in wolves' clothing, but there are more respectful, tactful ways of going about it 8) IMO

Oh please. Look at the state of that site. It's an absolute mess. www.mousecloner.com - I own al kinds of cool two-word domains that cost me about 7 bucks. It's not hard.

Guys, he said (in actual human English) that he was healing ZF on his phone, with full sound and graphics............................... :|

Sam, please stop encouraging people to invest interest in this chimp. If it's his product, why does he show his own customer feedback on his site?


Real User Quote:
5 Druids instantly summoning 15 trees at one time? `Nuff said!
-Tim (aka Evilseed)

You never know, he may jut be dense but it smells so fishy that I thought my Grandma was coming to visit.

[Sam DeathWalker]

He is in fact the previous owner of wowhead:

http://www.wowhead.com/?aboutus

Go to the 2nd paragraph from the bottem of the above link, then click on evilseed:

http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Evilseed

[Sam DeathWalker]

Hey I recomend me all the time.

[Evilseed]

I'm glad things are coming to light. I feel bad for people that get accused of being something other than what they claim. Then you come to find out they are just what they said they were, and more ( previous owner of wowhead? wowzers! ) I love wowhead! I think we should loosen up just enough to let individuals judge for themselves and less bashing on public forums.

I understand the desire to "protect" the forum population for the "evil sheep in wolves' clothing, but there are more respectful, tactful ways of going about it 8) IMO

It'll always be the crux and the benefit of any public communication method that there are those who always like to cry in distress when an otherwise calm situation exists. The intelligent and educated people are the ones who will do their own research and substantiate their own opinions and those are truly the ones to be heard. To the people who say my project is "vaporware" or has "malware" or is some devious scheme because I created a new username to better represent and focalize questions/feedback, as much as the spread of misinformation frustrates me, I will always have the belief that anybody and everybody has the right to say what they want to say, be it an agreeable statement or not.

I will always respond the same way, by being honest and maintaining to myself that people always deserve some measure of respect.

[Freddie]

Get 2x i-RAM for $200 and 16Gb DDR for extra $200, and you get a WoW storage solution that is MUCH faster than any SSD array.

I was seriously going to do this, but Gigabyte hasn't made an i-RAM that supports more than 4GB available to the public, and you'd need at LEAST 3 (but more likely 4) to contain WoW's /data folder. Also, there hasn't been a DDR2 i-RAM in the USA yet, so we're stuck spending more than twice as much for DDR1 over DDR2. The RAMBOX would be a better overall solution since it doesn't use multiple PCI slots like a i-RAM RAID0 array would.. but I've never found one available in the US.. only Hong Kong.

Have you seen this? Up to 64 GB of DDR2:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/16255

[Evilseed]

Get 2x i-RAM for $200 and 16Gb DDR for extra $200, and you get a WoW storage solution that is MUCH faster than any SSD array.

I was seriously going to do this, but Gigabyte hasn't made an i-RAM that supports more than 4GB available to the public, and you'd need at LEAST 3 (but more likely 4) to contain WoW's /data folder. Also, there hasn't been a DDR2 i-RAM in the USA yet, so we're stuck spending more than twice as much for DDR1 over DDR2. The RAMBOX would be a better overall solution since it doesn't use multiple PCI slots like a i-RAM RAID0 array would.. but I've never found one available in the US.. only Hong Kong.

Have you seen this? Up to 64 GB of DDR2:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/16255

First glance: Holy crap!

I just read the HD Tach (this is what I use) and it doesn't list it as being faster as the Intel X25's? How would this make sense? Doesn't DDR2 bus architecture support something like 800mb/s up to 5.3gb/s? I'm so confused why it is equal to intel's SSD x25.

A side note, does anybody know if eSATA2 has additional latencies over normal SATA2? I'm considering getting a eSATA drive encloser and putting the x25's I have in there for the ability to "plug and play" the drives between multiple machines of mine. I wouldn't want to do it if eSATA has speed latencies far in excess of normal SATA2. For example, USB drives have huuge speed cruxes due to USB file handlers and unsustained speeds.

I've never used eSATA so I've no idea and my google research so far seems very limited in results.

[Sam DeathWalker]

the 9010B is only $249 but with just one Sata port you can't raid it.

esata apparently is the same as regular sata. 3G.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

Look the very best is a Tyan Server Motherboard with like 32G on it. Thats like way more then enough lol. And all your ram is system ram, not Sata ram so you do get the full DDR2 spec.

http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=566

Thats like $840 without even trying to find it on the cheap. Take your board, add $400 for the ram drive and this has it beat I am sure.


Antoher possibilty is the i7 stuff, they are running at some insane 14g/sec with DDR3 which blows away all other memory bandwidth solutions. This board is only $250 but 12G max, still you might be ablt to get away with 8 gig for wow folders and 4 gigs for playing 5 instances of wow easy.

http://www.motherboardpro.com/Asus-R...il-p-1040.html

LoL 24G and 3-6 video cards:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=5