Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

[Moorea]

whatever... you're hopeless... have fun...

ps: I win my bet that your lowest won't be more than 45 before end of your second raf - my next bet is you'll never reach 80x26 but even if you do it'll take years to loose this bet

[glo]

Pal is 21 days 10 hours. I'd say like 10 days of that is killing mobs and leveling.

My new team hit 60 today with 2 days 20 hours played. This is without RAF but I did instance boost them with a 70 pally.

I am still unsure if I am doing a 2nd raf on the shammies. I will get 6 new raf accounts for the Mages. but 25 more new accounts for the shammies and the pal, not sure as only 15 levels to go.

If it takes 6 months to get to 45 with RAF it'll take you at least 4-5 months to do those 15 levels. It's not really an issue unless you plan to get to the level limit before the next expansion.

I figure that going to 31 accounts puts me a bit closer to Prepared so I dont have to get as much gear as I would otherwise have to.

As much gear to do what? There is no 31 man level 80 content and nobody cares about anything less, at all, even a little. 26 is a silly number to box but you have explained that, why 31?

Would you rather have the damage output of 1 Level 80 Pal or 20 level 32 shaman to help you aoe mobs while leveling?

I'd rather have the 80 pal, I wouldn't be silly enough to try to aoe grind 20+ characters though.

My weakness right now is the ability to hit targets from beyond 36 yards. If enemy moves into LB range, thats good, into shock range, even better and into totems and ws range better yet. Basically the closer people get the better for me (and moreso when I get thunderstorm). With 6 mages I can at least put in a dent in someone at 41 yards (with the right talents). And haveing one porter in each group will really help getting around the world. And mages pack a punch for sure, and I didnt want to goof around with pets with a warlock. Also with a mage in each group I dont run into the no exp for killing with only totems problem, without redoing groups. Also I can pull at 41 yards with a mage ....

Yeah, that's your problem ;)

[Sam DeathWalker]

My new team hit 60 today with 2 days 20 hours played. This is without RAF but I did instance boost them with a 70 pally.

You didn't quest? Its a team of 5 or 4? You boosted 4 at a time or what? Actually you do get more exp using a 70 pal instead of an 80 ...
Your guys are shells, no defensive skills, or weapons or much of anything, no trades, just the levels. Nothing wrong with levels for sure but still. im makeing my guys a bit more complete.

I'd rather have the 80 pal, I wouldn't be silly enough to try to aoe grind 20+ characters though.

You would prefer for a level 40 character to get 40/80plus40 exp for each mob killed insteade of all the exp the mob gives?

31 is 6 groups of 5 each plus the main tank (pal). Whats so odd about that? I dont want my main computer to run more then one instance so that I can see the game if full resolution and effects and have perfectly fluid movement on the main.

[Moorea]

LOL... shells with levels... ahah ... how many toon you have with 300+ skills... let's see... a total of 0 in 7 months... Sam you got to realize you're just the worse wow player ever... I guess that's some achievement... not everybody can be so bad yet think so highly of himself... congrats...

[glo]

You didn't quest? Its a team of 5 or 4? You boosted 4 at a time or what? Actually you do get more exp using a 70 pal instead of an 80 ...
Your guys are shells, no defensive skills, or weapons or much of anything, no trades, just the levels. Nothing wrong with levels for sure but still. im makeing my guys a bit more complete.

I quested for a few minutes, at level 10 I have the advantage of being able to instance boost them.

Heh, that team sucks slightly less then yours and didn't take anywhere near half a year. Couple hours of questing they will probably be able to take the scrub 26. These characters will more then likely never have trades. I have all the collectors I need and I can get everything crafted by a guild mate or another player. You don't get much from trades even at the highest level after spending thousands of gold, there isn't really even a "must have" profession for raiding right now and unless blizzard changes directions on that point there never will be again.

The funny thing is your "more complete" characters will probably never reach the level cap and certainly will never get geared. There really is no gear path for a 31 boxer who plays in the middle of the night other then breaking up into smaller groups and you have already made it known you won't be doing anything like that. If blizzard waits a couple years before another expansion and you start learning how to play soon I could see you maybe doing archavon before the level cap is raised.

31 is 6 groups of 5 each plus the main tank (pal). Whats so odd about that? I dont want my main computer to run more then one instance so that I can see the game if full resolution and effects and have perfectly fluid movement on the main.

You seem to have misunderstood the question. I was not asking how many copies of wow your computers can run I was asking what your goal is for 31 characters. Other then some old pre-BC instances which you will never do at level there is nothing you can even get 31 characters in to. You do realize there is very little in the way of outside bosses in wow right? Everything is in instances capped at 5 ,10, or 25 man. There are no outside raid bosses in Wrath at all and both outside bosses in BC have been 5 boxed already.

[blast3r]

In 3 months time I leveled 25 toons to lvl 60+. When my RAF was over I had the following:

5 Shamans at level 60
5 Druids at lvl 62
5 Warlocks lvl 62
5 Hunters lvl 65
5 Rogues lvl 60
Also 5 mages at lvl 17

I'm not sure how much time you actually play during a week. But with RAF leveling 5 man teams is pretty efficient. If I had not worried about getting some teams above lvl 60 it is possible I might have had 30 at lvl 60 in the 3 months.

[RobinGBrown]

It seems that ANYONE can level 20-30 toons to 60 in 90 days of RAF and have all the levels to give out.

Yet SamDaMan can't manage to get to 46 in 180 days RAF time.

EPIC FAIL!

Really, really, really, major, chart topping epic fail. Worst WoW player ever.

And '21 days /played to lvl 45' is another epic fail that matches right up with 'missed the RAF deadline on 26 toons'. I can't stop smiling.

Can someone with a screenshot of 26 dead shaman make an inspirational poster puhlease!

[elsegundo]

LOL... shells with levels... ahah ... how many toon you have with 300+ skills... let's see... a total of 0 in 7 months... Sam you got to realize you're just the worse wow player ever... I guess that's some achievement... not everybody can be so bad yet think so highly of himself... congrats...

ditto.

after reading this thread and after keeping tabs (kinda) with what sam has been doing, yea... sam, you totally suck at this game.

[Spin]

My new team hit 60 today with 2 days 20 hours played. This is without RAF but I did instance boost them with a 70 pally.

You didn't quest? Its a team of 5 or 4? You boosted 4 at a time or what? Actually you do get more exp using a 70 pal instead of an 80 ...
Your guys are shells, no defensive skills, or weapons or much of anything, no trades, just the levels. Nothing wrong with levels for sure but still. im makeing my guys a bit more complete.

Well to give you a 'single-box' comparision, my first raid toon(alliance shammy) I leveled with a friend of mine (we rerolled to be with other friends)from 1-70 with a rough /played of about 12 days, 10 hours. I only play at night (my time is limited) That 12 days includes time spent leveling my engineering/mining. That was done playing a couple of hours each night, almost no instances just straight questing. I consider myself a casual player (I only clock about 3-4 hours a night:P) I probably could have done it faster if I didn't spend Levels 57-60 doing battlegrounds quests. I also spent a lot of time post 60 getting ganked and camped.

Now, as far as boosting toons and not leveling secondary skills... remember that most of these guys already have a bunch of other characters. Most people that I know prefer to level their skills AFTER they hit max level. I prefer to level as I go. i also like reading the quest text as well because wow has a lot of interesting little stories in it, but thats a conversation for a different time.

IMO, take a break from level all 26 at once and level a 5 team for a few levels. I think that you will be pleasantly surprised at how much fun it can be.

[Sam DeathWalker]

There are 40 man raids, maybe I can't kill the boss mobs but might kill some low level mini boss, I dont know.

There are 25 man raids, and with some mages I can go all shammy or mix in mages I guess.

My first RAF wasnt really much as I was making computers and macros and all the stuff besides playing, the 2nd RAF I was actually able to play - keep in mind that Prepared dosn't use addons, getting all addons to work for over 5 guys isnt as easy as everyone makes it sound. Ok it seems slow for the 2nd RAF, big deal whats the rush. I have passed up over 6 million players in 6 months and am set up to pass more as time goes on.

Bought 6 more battlechests today (29.99 frys ...) be moving mages to them in a few days.

It seems there are some level 50 'outdoor' instances that I think give exp when you kill mobs - is that double like indoor instances, well the eleits should be. And it looks like 20 will get in there, do you form a raid to enter and then split into groups or do you just only get raid exp or how does all that work, I can't seem to find infos on it. This zone here:

http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=19

So you can't get exp from a 40 man raid zone?

My main plan is to do wintergrasp, I don't see any reason I can't. If people "bomb" me Ill try and get those goblin rocket launchers.

Lojo had some problems with me last night, Im killing him a lot easyer now I geared up most my guys, he killed me a bunch of time but I killed him a lot also, and once I get to 46 I am sure Ill heal though dandd, in fact I seem to be able to run through it now and not die like i used to. To bad I dont have the 4 level 40 mages to help me like i planned, oh well at least if he starts attacking my main group I can just keep my 6 mages in some other zone and level them heh .... using a mix of spells and he is just taking to much damage. Once the frost shock slows him down he can't run. Lol he was even running from me for a long time last night when he was low health. I think getting decent mail gear in most of my slots now is what the difference is, as well as a better mix of spells.

Dont forget I spend 1 hour a day fighting off these wanna be gankers.