Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well one thing, I dont have the water totem heh ... so umm those are out anyways, just did the air, earth and fire totems quest blush ... And its not like mana means anything, I rarely run out.

Ya followers have some lag but mine is low (used to be a lot worse), and they are 5-10 yards behind. But no matter how its sliced if the dandd is 10 yards radius my guys have to move 10 yards to escape it. Frost shock and all the other shocks have the same 20 yard range. All my guys have the fire nova totem glyph and 1/2 have the lightning bolt one and the other 1/2 have the frost nova one, so that his slow will last longer.

Yes healing though it is by far the best, I need a few more levels and maybe the next chain heal to do it. Let me look into restro spec but I am really looking forward to 25 thunderstorms.

I'v added the water shield, and grounding totems to the mix. Let me read about the searing totems, I know they are impervious to aoe. I didnt know that his anti magic shield was damaged based, seems I could just drop fire nova totems near him and beat it down then, or earth shock through it.

There is little doubt that the main stratagy is to just level up to where I can one shot him. End of story.

I'll be making 6 mages soon and dropping one shaman so Ill have 6 groups of 1 mage / 4 shaman each and the Pal leader. Ya warlocks are better for transport but I dont want to deal with pets and yet antoehr class. The 35 yard range on the mages is to good to pass up and transport to major cities is good enough.

I have over 500 gold now so I been buying up all mail items that are under 5 gold each, this will add a lot to my servivibility.

GOT A PURPLE item this morning putting it out at 266 gold in AH !!!!!!!

[elsegundo]

There is little doubt that the main stratagy is to just level up to where I can one shot him. End of story.

26 vs 1? as you level you better be able to 1shot him. there's no strategy in that.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Right, thats why I play 26, and with 6 mages all the better and in a year or two 20 more goblin rocket things well .... Ya I level slower by far but when I get to where i want to be well ....

Im going to RAF the mages, but I might not get raf again the rest, its like another $1000 and Ill be at level 47ish anyways, I can work with rested exp (do one group until they are not reasted, then another untill they are not rested, then the next etc.) well enough.

Im not going restro, Ill wait for level 46 and chainheal2 adds over 20percent more healing. Also might glyph some guys to glyph of chain heal also, maybe like 4 be frost shock glyph and the rest chain heal (21), that should boost up the healing enough. Dont really need the lightning bolt glyph anyways. I use the fire nova totem every time in pve so I have to have it. Dang the glyph requires 385 inscription ... well humm Ill try and get some slow but sure bah.

The anti magic zone takes 10K damage ... or 10 seconds, think Ill wait the 10 seconds.

I can see why everyone is complaining about DK's in PvP ....



Searing Totem Rank 4
9% of base mana
Instant cast
Tools:

Fire Totem
Summons a Searing Totem with 5 health at your feet for 45 sec that repeatedly attacks an enemy within 20 yards for 26 to 34 Fire damage.

Is that per second? At any rate he would be nuts to be inside 20 yards as Ill shock him down. Still these dont need facing. Hummm ... well can't hurt to add them to the mix either.

[Moorea]

lol... using raf for the ez 1-40ish and giving up on the useful ->61 part... great strategy sam - without RAF you'll probably hit 60 when the next expansion comes up...

as far as buying items at the AH that again shows how clueless you are... level instead of spending all this time in AH... and wasting money... keep your money to get mounts instead of wasting it on useless gear that any normal player would outlevel in hours

[Sam DeathWalker]

I have the zehvra mounts on all. I have 500gold to spend and make 100g or so each day just selling stuff I get from killz.

[Til Eulenspiegel]

I have the zehvra mounts on all. I have 500gold to spend and make 100g or so each day just selling stuff I get from killz.

500g total? Just remember that as you level, skills will cost more and more, and at some point down the road you'll need to get higher riding skill (unless you never want to either ride fast or fly). And that will cost a pretty penny.

[Souca]

The Zhevra mount is a 150 riding mount. Training to ride that mount is 480G if you are exalted with the faction of the trainer. So best case you are looking at:

480G x 36 = 17,280G

I don't know what level you are now, but you will also need to learn Riding(75) before you can train Riding(150) for the Zhevra, so thats:

28g x 36 = 1,008G assuming you are exalted with the faction of the trainer. Worst case it's 35G if you are nuetral. Your pally will get their mount and training as part of a spell training, so you save a little there. You will also need to buy a slow mount to ride, which is aprox 9g per. You can avoid the 9g if you wait until you are 60 to train riding, but it will be slower questing even with ghost wolf and you still have to shell out the 1,008G for the first level of riding.

- Souca -

[Spin]

IMO, i'd love to see an amory link to the death knights invovled. For one thing, I want to look at the specs to see if they are maxmized (as I suspect) for AoE and magic suppression specifically

This is my "anti sam specc'ed" DK :

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...%27zhul&n=Loja

(basically specced for highest possible DnD dmg - I think - critique welcome)

Your build is ok, but it looks like you didn't spend too much time on it--basically just threw down 53 points and were gtg. IMO the points you have in blood are wasted without getting the 2 hnd talent--better by far to use those points in either frost or more unholy.

BTW, you are human... why use an axe? Don't humans get +5 expertise with swords? Not that 5 expertise is gonna matter all that much in the present, but eventually it will cut down on dodges and parries on the pally. Prot pallies can be a real bitch to kill considering that they can cleanse themself and they have a lot of dodge/parry mitigation. Well, assumign they are specc'd properly that is.

Anyway, we need to look the fact we(well you) are facing 25 shammies and a pally. Shammies do Nature and Fire damage, Pallies do Holy damage, so we need ways to mitigate both. We need to be able to kill many quickly and eliminate/mitigate incoming damage. Right now you have a 15-20ish level difference and the fact that there isn't a lot of low level +hit gear. We also need to consider that we have to be on top of the target to do the maximum amount of damage which means that we have to deal with PBAoEs(Player Based AoEs).

I'm looking some stuff and crosschecking a few things. I'll have a real build at some point, but tentatively I have:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZbxZfMhIxck0xqocou

Make sure that you are plague striking and then DnDing. PS + desecration will add 5% damage plus its a snare. Icy touch then pestilence to spread DK herpes through his ranks. Make sure that you have the DnD Glyph that adds +damage--too bad it isn't an AoE fear anymore, otherwise you'd be lol'ing him. Don't worry about the speed boost talents, you have the epic ground which travels faster than anything else in azeroth. I need to work Reaping into the build and there are few other key points that I missed.

Thats all for now.

BTW, if your alchemy, make some ivis pots for that surpise buttsehks factor. Maybe seel those herbs or trade for a leg enchant? I haven't looked at the gear too closely. Will check more soon.

I'll look for a better anti-sam build.

[Moorea]

IMO, i'd love to see an amory link to the death knights invovled. For one thing, I want to look at the specs to see if they are maxmized (as I suspect) for AoE and magic suppression specifically

This is my "anti sam specc'ed" DK :

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...%27zhul&n=Loja

(basically specced for highest possible DnD dmg - I think - critique welcome)

Your build is ok, but it looks like you didn't spend too much time on it--basically just threw down 53 points and were gtg. IMO the points you have in blood are wasted without getting the 2 hnd talent--better by far to use those points in either frost or more unholy.

I guess you didn't actually check the points I put :-) this is a respec and there is a very good reason to take those 10 points in blood and 5 in frost... Let see if you can figure it out :-)

BTW, you are human... why use an axe? Don't humans get +5 expertise with swords? Not that 5 expertise is gonna matter all that much in the present, but eventually it will cut down on dodges and parries on the pally. Prot pallies can be a real bitch to kill considering that they can cleanse themself and they have a lot of dodge/parry mitigation. Well, assumign they are specc'd properly that is.

irrelevant - the reason I have that axe is it's the best AP item I have - expertise is irrelevant when fighting toons several level lower

Anyway, we need to look the fact we(well you) are facing 25 shammies and a pally. Shammies do Nature and Fire damage, Pallies do Holy damage, so we need ways to mitigate both. We need to be able to kill many quickly and eliminate/mitigate incoming damage. Right now you have a 15-20ish level difference and the fact that there isn't a lot of low level +hit gear. We also need to consider that we have to be on top of the target to do the maximum amount of damage which means that we have to deal with PBAoEs(Player Based AoEs).

the pally is irrelevant; he could hit me for 1/2h and not kill me...

I'm looking some stuff and crosschecking a few things. I'll have a real build at some point, but tentatively I have:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZbxZfMhIxck0xqocou

Make sure that you are plague striking and then DnDing. PS + desecration will add 5% damage plus its a snare. Icy touch then pestilence to spread DK herpes through his ranks. Make sure that you have the DnD Glyph that adds +damage--too bad it isn't an AoE fear anymore, otherwise you'd be lol'ing him. Don't worry about the speed boost talents, you have the epic ground which travels faster than anything else in azeroth. I need to work Reaping into the build and there are few other key points that I missed.

Thats all for now.

if not putting the 10+5 I have in blood/frost - then a deep unholy to get Unholy blight would be a must - your spec doesn't have it - I used to have a deep unholy but coming in contact to apply desecrate, etc... is a risky proposition and maximizing DnD is better (which is my build)

On a pale horse is also a sam special : I spend considerable amount of time running around searching for him

Likewise once on foot, any speed advantage is vital - so I think you're wrong on all counts so far :-) keep trying though :-)

[Moorea]

I have the zehvra mounts on all. I have 500gold to spend and make 100g or so each day just selling stuff I get from killz.

Cool you can get the slow riding and mount for 11 of your toons and fast one for 1 with that... which was my point exactly... but continue wasting time and gold... goes well with the rest of your strategies and real life