Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

[blast3r]

Are there 40 range regular combat spells for any class?
If you had RTFM you'd know the answer to this - I'm not at all surprised that you have the nerve to ask after all your previous 'I did it my way' ego

I looked around, seems you have to read each spell to find the range. I use good suggestions that are consistent with my play style (i.e. killing mobs). Also like I said I have 50 quests achivments on two of my guys (meaning the rest are like 45 or so) so I do quests.

I made over 16 million plat (and spent like 10 million) in EQ. Right now I have 6 million plat on one guy in EQ (froze my accounts though).

I doubt that I will have any trouble with gold at all. Im not saying its going to be over night or anything like I say this is 1-2 years down the road, I can understand that its a lOOOONG road. I read soemthing about "molts" that engineerrs can get from some cloud or something and that with 20 guys I can get 20 from one clouds or something.

i have like 400-500 gold right now in WoW and I started with begging 1 gold for spells.

Eng relies on a lot of the same materials as blacksmithing. So mining is the key. And ya its impossible to mine all the stuff you need for 20 guys. But the point is that given I will have all the main professions at 400 plus at some point and guys at 60-70, Ill be able to get items, sell them and use that monies to buy what I need.

Still being able to single shot someone at 45 yards is such a powerfull ability that it does seem worth it.

In some ways too bad you couldn't level on a pve server and then transfer them later to pvp. I can see placing each toon on a mine and just sit there all day waiting for it to spawn and then tap it. I imagine you could level mining quicker and get a ton of blackmisthing and jewel crafting mats that way.

[Til Eulenspiegel]

I can understand that its a lOOOONG road. I read soemthing about "molts" that engineerrs can get from some cloud or something and that with 20 guys I can get 20 from one clouds or something.

Not quite. You're talking about 'motes' that are harvested from clouds. More specifically, engineers can harvest either Motes of Air or Motes of Shadow. These are only found in a couple of zones in Outland, and they do not work quite the way you are hoping. When the mote is harvested, the cloud disappears. 20 people will not be harvesting from one cloud, just like 20 people cannot mine the same node or gather the same herb.

Also, motes may not be as valuable as you think, since nowadays nobody really cares much about the Outland stuff (at least not nearly as much as when Outland was current).

It's also quite an expensive endeavor, from a time investment, to level engineering just to have a few planted explosives. Fun, sure, but you're better off just leveling first. And, on top of that, if you're planning for 1-2 years down the road, things are going to have changed drastically by that time anyway. In fact, two years down the road, there will likely be yet another expansion to change the landscape entirely.

[elsegundo]

I can understand that its a lOOOONG road. I read soemthing about "molts" that engineerrs can get from some cloud or something and that with 20 guys I can get 20 from one clouds or something.

Not quite. You're talking about 'motes' that are harvested from clouds. More specifically, engineers can harvest either Motes of Air or Motes of Shadow. These are only found in a couple of zones in Outland, and they do not work quite the way you are hoping. When the mote is harvested, the cloud disappears. 20 people will not be harvesting from one cloud, just like 20 people cannot mine the same node or gather the same herb.

Also, motes may not be as valuable as you think, since nowadays nobody really cares much about the Outland stuff (at least not nearly as much as when Outland was current).

It's also quite an expensive endeavor, from a time investment, to level engineering just to have a few planted explosives. Fun, sure, but you're better off just leveling first. And, on top of that, if you're planning for 1-2 years down the road, things are going to have changed drastically by that time anyway. In fact, two years down the road, there will likely be yet another expansion to change the landscape entirely.

farming motes wont make you that much money anymore. farm the clouds in northrend. those will give you more. though............ you need to be higher leveled for it. and at this point, i think we'll all be a year older by the time he gets there.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya another expansion will surely change things but as we have all noticed they just upgrade the old things. People get 5 more levels but they add new items, similar to the old, that are stronger and do more damage. I would guess that at 550 or whatever eng expands to there will be something like the rocket lancher that does more damage to compensate for more HP on higher level players. All TS will have something nice at the end else none will use them.

Well ya I plan to level first. I doubt I will even start eng on my 20 untill level 70 or so. Im working up all the main professions on my guys now though because Im gathering the materials that they need. Like that level 80 I saw killing mobs for mageweave. I mean whats up with that when yur level 80. Well I gues you can turn it in for exp, didnt think about that. Ill have to stockpile some for my alts I guess.

As my time is ending in like 10 days I need to plan for my lowbies, Ill have a LOT of grants left. Looking for a class that has some group/raid transportation abilities (mage or warlock I guess), and that can single strike at range (40 plus yards off an assist not ground target), my main weak point I think. Dont need healing or dps, and cant really use mellee characters. So I guess hunters or casters is my only choice. I think Ill make 5 or 10 (maybe 13), maybe I should try like 2-3 of each or something, not sure.

[glo]

Also I have a plan lol:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23836

If I get 20 of my guys to 350 in enginerring I can single target anyone at 45 yards .... and it follows them as they move lol. It even targets people on flyers. I know its a long long long road for 20 enginerrs but not impossible, I think my enginerr is 190 or so now anyway. Maybe a year or two but then Ill be super at range and in close (thunderstorm and war stomp and fire nova totem).

Anybody else picturing Wile E. Coyote while reading this post? Sam is like the coyote trying to get Loja so he comes up with this brilliant plan but everyone knows any second 26 anvils are going to fall out of the sky onto 26 heads!



To put this plan in perspective for you, it will take roughly 48,000 gold to give you the ability to insta-gib a solo player once every 2 minutes with a 26 box team. I guess if that is what you need to actually win a pvp encounter you should go for it ;)

[Svpernova09]

Anybody else picturing Wile E. Coyote while reading this post? Sam is like the coyote trying to get Loja so he comes up with this brilliant plan but everyone knows any second 26 anvils are going to fall out of the sky onto 26 heads!

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[elsegundo]

lol

[Svpernova09]

SO BAN THE RETARD

You of all people should be the one ignoring him since you have such an obvious problem with him.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I killed Loja today, but his death pack thing killed me lol ... or whatever it is that lets the DK fight after he dies. 5 more levels and its over for level 60ish DK's against me.

Whats 48,000 gold? Gold selling at $17/1000 to show you its value, so what $1000 to win at pvp all the time every two minutes ... I have 0ver $10,000 invested in this game with computers acocunts and all that. Ill make the gold, not buy it, but just to show relitive value. PvP is won by the stronger player prior to the pvp. At level 38 I cant beat a single level 62 DK no matter what I do, at level 48 it will be hard to lose.

[Stealthy]

I can understand that its a lOOOONG road. I read soemthing about "molts" that engineerrs can get from some cloud or something and that with 20 guys I can get 20 from one clouds or something.

Not quite. You're talking about 'motes' that are harvested from clouds. More specifically, engineers can harvest either Motes of Air or Motes of Shadow. These are only found in a couple of zones in Outland, and they do not work quite the way you are hoping. When the mote is harvested, the cloud disappears. 20 people will not be harvesting from one cloud, just like 20 people cannot mine the same node or gather the same herb.

Also, motes may not be as valuable as you think, since nowadays nobody really cares much about the Outland stuff (at least not nearly as much as when Outland was current).

It's also quite an expensive endeavor, from a time investment, to level engineering just to have a few planted explosives. Fun, sure, but you're better off just leveling first. And, on top of that, if you're planning for 1-2 years down the road, things are going to have changed drastically by that time anyway. In fact, two years down the road, there will likely be yet another expansion to change the landscape entirely.

Actually multiple toons CAN harvest the same cloud - I do this regularly as I have two teams of 5 with maxed out Engy. 10 Eternal Fire's in 10 minutes = win!

It is very expensive to level though...and it's not exactly a money making profession. But on a large scale....hmmmm.

Cheers,

S.