Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

[Sam DeathWalker]

I understand the high level toons kills 60 mobs for you. But the exp you get per kill is like what 20/20plus80, 1/5 if a level 80 is boosting a level 20.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob_XP

or the same as if you killed 12 mobs on your own (or 24 non eleit mobs) .....

Can you kill 24 mobs in 12 minutes with 21 other same level characters to help your 5 man group (as opposed to a 4 man group in instances I mgiht add). I think so.

So instance = 60 mobs dead, in 12 mintues.

World killing = 24 mobs with 21 other characters to help, in 12 mintues.

Should be no problem to kill a mob every 30 seconds with 26 characters .... In fact in the priate cove, by dropping 20 fire nova totems and aoeing the mobs i am doing WAY more then a mob per 30 seconds lol .... Ill parse my logs to find out.

So for a 26 boxer real world killing is like instance boosting which most say is better then questing.

[Bigfish]

Parse your XP/hour/character at what level, and we'll see if someone with some boostable characters can give us an ingame number for instance boosting of an equivalent level. Not that it really matters. I already boosted a full 25-man raid to 60 in the space of a week or two. I have no idea what's taking you so long unless you're only playing 2 hours a week or something.

Edit: Oh, and while I'm here, the reason you get told to quest and everyone else gets told to boost is because, generally, boosting is faster if you have a booster available, which many regular WoW players who move in to boxing do. Questing is faster for people who can't boost and want to level all their toons at once.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I have this:

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...tails/wlp.aspx

but I cant seem to get any exp/hour from it.

[blast3r]

I have this:

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...tails/wlp.aspx

but I cant seem to get any exp/hour from it.

Use Titan Panel with the XP mod. It shows you XP per hour as well as estimated time to reach next level.

[Souca]

Okay. On leveling times and boosting.

With RaF I can quest to level 10 in 1 hour 17 minutes . That was on a pretty crappy comp too ( 3 hunters, shammy and a rogue )

From level 10 instance boosting SFK -> SM Cath -> ZF -> Strat -> Ramps with a level 80 DK resulted in level 60 characters with 19 hours played, but we can call it 20 to make the math easier.

From Wowwiki:

The total experience needed to reach level 60 is 3,379,400.

So 3,379,400 / 20 = 168k per hour

This number includes all afk, travel time, and any down time while logged in. Not the best average in the world, but still not that bad. In real world time, it was over the period of a Fri, Sat and Sun.

You could have 25 60s with RaF in 100 hours played seperate from the pally leveling to 70 or 80. You don't have to level all 26 together. What is the /played time your characters?

- Souca -

[Bigfish]

I think I simplified it even more. Seconds/mob, since that's what Sam seems to like. It starts out in RFC and Stocks being pretty high, maybe 4-5 seconds/mob. Maybe less. As you level up, the pulls start shrinking around level 40 or so, but this is made up for by the booster's level having less of an impact on the diminished XP. I would say though if you're ever dropping to 30seconds/mob, you're doing something wrong terribly terribly wrong.

[Souca]

More math.

Assuming a level 47 world mob, a level 47 would get 280 xp for a solo kill.

For a group of 5 level 47, each would get 78.4 xp.

Factor in RaF and you get 235.2 rounded to 236 to be generous.

168k per hour / 236 = aprox 711 per hour or 11.85 per minute, or one every 5-6 seconds.

This is per 5 man group and inclusive of time to loot. Since the 168k per hour is based on 4 characters being boosted (and gifting a 5th and 6th ) this is the appropriate comparison even though you get 6 characters from boosting.

- Souca -

[Zub]

guys stop with the boosting, you all know Sam does NOT have a high level toon he can rely on to boost his herd (and won't level one solo. it's 26 or not basically)

Sam, in my previous note i commented on boosting, because it was your example, but obviously this is for 5 man groups (or even 4 man+booster)
I also said it would not work for your group of 26, and that "your best bet was quests".

If you're going to be killing stuff anyway, why not pick up the quests? grab them on five toons, share them on 25.

Heck one thing i would suggest if you don't want to be 'questing': STILL PICK UP ALL THE QUESTS YOU SEE, don't even look at them, and go do your grind thing.
Chances are, you'll be completing the quests without realizing it, as there are quests for almost every mob in the game. And that is a hell lot of bonus xp.

What's the worse that can happen? your quest log will be full, and that's just a couple clicks in Jamba to fix up.

Good hunting.

[mikekim]

Sam,

here are some simple facts you just don't seem to grasp:

Normal RAF method:

1x group of 5 from 0-60 questing normally using RAF (all the same level - no boosting) 2 days /Played

rinse and repeat x 4 groups another 8 days /played

character 26 gifted up to 60 - 2 minutes /played

so using RAF the way its supposed (and the time to level to 60 is not by far the quickest ) to be played 10 days /played for all characters to 60


Your Method:

level all 26 characters at the same time by killing mobs (currently level 47) 6 months /played ?

now you don't have to be a genius to work out which is the more efficient method of levelling, and no amount of XP/Hour stats would back you up on your method..


BOTTOM LINE... levelling up in game is primarily designed around questing (with groups of up to 5 characters)

[Moorea]

We told sam 7 months ago to shoot 2 birds in 1 stone and:

a) minimally learn the game
b) make himself a couple "main" for boosting and other use

both could have been accomplished in about 1-4 weeks of relaxed dual (1 pally 1 mage for instance) RAF questing 1-60 plus a few more weeks to get to 70 - after which he could have started RAF on 24 remaining accounts and get them all to 60 in a couple weeks (4 at a time)

I took my then 64 or so pally with the sporegearr shield and I was able to solo 1 pull SM Cath with it - used it to get a friend to lvl42 in a few hours (note btw that I tried with my 72 DK and got my ass kicked even doing 2 pulls - my 72 hunter with a gorilla pet was fine doing 2 pulls)

BUT if he wanted to play all 26 at a time (which is also a fair option); or now all 5 mages without using a booster THEN questing (following the excellent RAF Tourguide 1-60 for instance) is the fastest way - but what takes everybody hours takes weeks for sam - he's just special like that - you should see him in game...


Sam's /played time is so big it would be scary to know (and he's going to say he can't tell his played time because it includes time hanging out in TB idle... yeah... good excuse... come on ... what's the number ?)