3.0.8 Shaman choice - improved fire nova totem or +20% flametongue weapon

[Hachoo]

Simple question - my spec is down to choosing between these 2 talents - 2 points into improved fire nova totem or 2 points into the talent to improve flametongue weapon which is ~42.2 spellpower increase (x4). I hardly ever use fire nova totem and i dont pvp but im still thinking of getting it - just not sure yet - any input on these 2?

[Dominian]

For pve i would def take flametoung but the fire now stun is handy in a few cases.

Since you have 4 elemental shamans?

Put one point in each.

Now each shaman got a 50% chance to stun with the totem and my guess would be that the cases were non gets the stun proc would be very rare.

[Hachoo]

Hey thats a good idea, didn't think of that I'll probably do that then.

[weeep]

Even better do one shaman with nova talent and the others with flametongue, you'll be getting guaranteed stun and more total bonus spelldmg

[BobGnarly]

IMO, one point in imp fire nova totem is a waste. It's one of those all or nothing things. If you're dropping these for stuns, you want to be sure to stun.

If I had to choose, I'd probably go with imp fire nova. I have this on all 4, and with round-robin, it's around 8 sec of stuns on EVERYTHING. This can be a big saver of a bad situation.

[Hachoo]

I don't think theres really a pve situation that warrants needing this. And I really don't want to waste time dropping round robin fire nova totems in PvE as the drop in dps would be astounding.

[Multibocks]

IMO, one point in imp fire nova totem is a waste. It's one of those all or nothing things. If you're dropping these for stuns, you want to be sure to stun.

If I had to choose, I'd probably go with imp fire nova. I have this on all 4, and with round-robin, it's around 8 sec of stuns on EVERYTHING. This can be a big saver of a bad situation.

Dimishing returns will negate most of the 8 secs. Think its 2 secs, 1 sec and .5 sec then full immune.

[Dominian]

Even better do one shaman with nova talent and the others with flametongue, you'll be getting guaranteed stun and more total bonus spelldmg

Idd thats an even better idea!

[Catamer]

the improved flametonge is a must but the improve fire nova is really nice.
I never used nova's either until I got a pally added to my team.
now I can round up with the pally and drop a concecrate + nova's and watch it blow up stuff.
in pvp, it's a nice panic button to stun targets, they do huge damage and anything not killed is stunned.