Moonkin Spell Rotation ?

[emesis]

Wrath
Mana cost 385
Base damage (avg) 588
SP coefficient (talented) 0.67
Spell power 1500
Average hit (without crit) 1593
Cast time (talented) 1.5
DPS 1062
MPS 256


Starfire
Mana cost 559
Base damage (avg) 1120
SP coefficient (talented) 1.2
Spell power 1500
Average hit (without crit) 2920
Cast time (talented) 3
DPS 973
MPS 186
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These numbers don't change appreciably with increasing spell power. Wrath gives you about 9% more DPS at a cost of nearly 40% more mana per second. That's a pretty awful tradeoff for most purposes. I wouldn't touch Wrath in dungeons, anyway, unless you are specced into Eclipse and going to manage the spell rotation manually.

Interesting! Did you use a tool of some sort to calcute that? I'd like to see stats for other classes as well with their spells.[/quote]

Microsoft Excel :-). There are a number of very good, class specific DPS calculation worksheets out there on the net, depending on your class(es) of interest. These take into account gear, buffs, spell rotations, etc. I just threw in some numbers from wowwiki to calculate the above, though.

[Feider]

This all kind of goes along with what I thought.
So aside from applying Moonfire and Insect Swarm, I'll spam Wrath in short fights and Starfire in longer fights. Keeping it real simple.

[Meeo]

My Boomkin out DPS's the rest of my team with weaker gear, a single button castrandom Starfire, Wrath, Wrath is what i use to get between 2400 to 3100 dps on my boomkin. Due to there being no cooldown on either spell a castrandom works really good on a boomkin when hasted/heroism/trinketing, unlike my shamans which all have cooldowns on all but lightning bolt.

I used to use castrandom starfire, wrath, but added a 2nd wrath so i cast that spell more often, which helped my dps with my boomkin, but did increase mana consumption, but that is offset by mana totem and wisdom.

On Boss fights i manually apply FF and IS.

[Bigfish]

Something about those DPS and MPS numbers strikes me as off. Something about Nature's Grace and Omen of Clarity. Potentially something else as well.

[weeep]

Also, keep in mind that while Wrath and Starfire have similar DPS, Wrath is much less mana efficient.

Good things about Wrath are:
1) It benefits much more from Nature's Grace talent than Starfire. Flat .5s cast time decrease is equal to extra 33.3% haste for Wrath and only 16.7% haste for Starfire. So Wrath is better for short burst encounters.
2) Since crits restore a fixed amount of mana, lower cast time spells (ie. Wrath) provide better manaregen than longer cast time spells. Of course it is not enough to compensate the DPM difference, but it should be taken into account.

[genocyde]

On that same haste % note, I've noticed under heroism my wrath seems to bottom out the GCD an make nature's grace procs 100% useless as I end up waiting on GCD anyway.

I would say if your not going to use the eclipse talent I would glyph for starfire and moonfire and just spam starfire while keeping insect swarm and moonfire up on long fights and on short fights just put up insect swarm and spam wrath, maybe moonfire occasionally.

[emesis]

Also, keep in mind that while Wrath and Starfire have similar DPS, Wrath is much less mana efficient.

Good things about Wrath are:
1) It benefits much more from Nature's Grace talent than Starfire. Flat .5s cast time decrease is equal to extra 33.3% haste for Wrath and only 16.7% haste for Starfire. So Wrath is better for short burst encounters.
2) Since crits restore a fixed amount of mana, lower cast time spells (ie. Wrath) provide better manaregen than longer cast time spells. Of course it is not enough to compensate the DPM difference, but it should be taken into account.

Point 1 is very well-taken; Wrath spam will definitely do better DPS than Starfire spam, and this will be increased by Nature's Grace which is not taken into account in my (super-simplistic) calculations. But still at a mana cost.

Point 2 for the boomkin crit -> mana regen bonus proccing more quickly off quick cast spells is also something I left out of my calculation.

The previous poster's point above about the Omen of Clarity proccing more often off a short-time cast spell and thus provide some relative mana saving when spamming Wrath may or may not be true. If you are truly spamming one or the other remember that in Wrath spamming you will be relatively-speaking wasting the free spell from clearcasting on a lower-mana cost spell (Wrath versus Starfire).

I guess this is what they made the test dummies for (though I sure wish there was a way to reduce the huge variation I see in dps based on crits).

[Shavi]

You should be able to make a cast macro where u start casting starfire every etc 6 sec and then check if its actully casting starfire and if it is stopcasting and begin wrath. Etc