My macro caused some pvp hate

[Catamer]

I can see focus-target if you have your tank as a focus but when would you use target-target?
I would think you would have to be targeting your tank or targeting this other PvP player to assist him.

but in a dungeon instance, when would target-target be the right thing to use?

[Siaea]

My trouble with PvP servers is that it doesn't have to be this way. Why spend all our time fighting when we could invest a tenth of that effort to sit down around a table and talk? In a world with infinite resources, conjurable provisions and effective immortality, surely we could find some common ground and work out the most intractable problems between our factions, e.g. legal partition of Ashenvale and demilitarization of Warsong Gulch; an agreement with the Royal Apothecary Society to cease its support for the insurgency in Hillsbrad in return for a standing-down of the outer guard perimeter at Southshore; a joint venture between the Horde and Ironforge to create a tram connecting the Undercity to Stonard via Kargath, creating jobs and reducing tensions through Dun Morogh and the Wetlands. Where reasonable people will take the time to talk with other reasonable people, the possibilities are endless.

I prefer to communicate through chain lightning. Cheaper, and gets the job done.

[elsegundo]

I can see focus-target if you have your tank as a focus but when would you use target-target?
I would think you would have to be targeting your tank or targeting this other PvP player to assist him.

but in a dungeon instance, when would target-target be the right thing to use?

one, if i change leaders and my tank dies. or two, if i dont have a focus to begin with. sometimes i do have team setups without a focus, as i started with target-target. i've played with focus-target and i do have to say its a lot better. but..... i also need targettarget for when i need to do other things. also its hard transitioning over from targettarget-based system to a focustarget-based system on several characters. im a bit lazy in that area. oh and my follow macro targets party1 before it follows, which sometimes is also the focus and sometimes not. yea maybe i should cleanup my macros on all my characters.

[Caspian]

My trouble with PvP servers is that it doesn't have to be this way. Why spend all our time fighting when we could invest a tenth of that effort to sit down around a table and talk? In a world with infinite resources, conjurable provisions and effective immortality, surely we could find some common ground and work out the most intractable problems between our factions, e.g. legal partition of Ashenvale and demilitarization of Warsong Gulch; an agreement with the Royal Apothecary Society to cease its support for the insurgency in Hillsbrad in return for a standing-down of the outer guard perimeter at Southshore; a joint venture between the Horde and Ironforge to create a tram connecting the Undercity to Stonard via Kargath, creating jobs and reducing tensions through Dun Morogh and the Wetlands. Where reasonable people will take the time to talk with other reasonable people, the possibilities are endless.

Ya know, we Horde tried that. Then the King of Stormwind came back. And he is, if you will pardon my language, a dickhead. Please see http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13267. Now I have not done this quest Alliance side but, I understand it is the same as Horde. Now if you did not do it, I will not spoil it - it is very worth doing. In TBC there was all this fun and happiness and spreading of Joy between the two factions. All the good will that was built up has been squandered.

There is also the whole deal with Arthas - the human Prince and Pallidan. His dissed Uther, who was cool. But, worse then that, he dissed Jaina who was very cool to the Horde. So the alliance get no slack, nor should they give any.

[Fef]

I play on an RP/PVP server, I re-rolled here as soon as this type of server opened (at first, RP was only PVE).

I don't have rules, I go just by the feeling.

Usually, I don't attack first, which used to be a big issue when playing one under geared character (casual player). It is of course less of a problem now. When attacked, I kill. If I get killed, I come back for revenge. I can decide to attack a player because he has a name not in line with the RP chart ("Psychokilla", "Röxxxör", etc ...). I systematically kill every Undead rogue I can see. I also use a KOS addon and systematically kill whoever appears on that (can have been added by alts or guildies). I sometimes help the Horde, it they are Tauren (I like Tauren), or a healing class soloing in a hard spot.

When playing my Druid + 4 x Hunter team, helping can be tough because of the sometimes erratic behaviour of pets due to targeting lag. I learned to not click on a friendly Horde character but just mouse-over him so that 2 out of 4 pets won't assault him when I engage my next mob. It happened quite a few times though. Same thing whit /autoshot, it can be tricky.

[Vicker]

I don't play on a pvp server for the sole purpose of being able to gank people. I almost always /cheer at them and help them kill whatever they're fighting. When I run into Horde players, I want it to mean something. On a pve server, if you run into a player of the opposing faction they just ignore you because there's very little interaction possible. On a pvp server, even if you just /wave, /hug, or help them kill a mob or few, it means something more because you actually chose to help them when there was an alternative.

Since there's no alternative on a pve server, it doesn't mean as much when you're friendly to the opposing faction. Being nice to somebody ceases to be interesting if it's forced upon you as the only alternative.

[-silencer-]

As a non-PvPer who never whined about it, it always gets me when people whine about it. Even worse was watching some of my own guild mates cry in guild chat. The same people who were the reason I rolled PvP, and who kept telling me how awesome it was and how much they loved it... they were the biggest crybabies. "OH FUCK NO THAT BASTARD GANKED ME WHERE IS MY RAZOR cut cut cut" That shit drove me crazy sometimes, geez.

That's because the average maturity of a PvP server is at least 10 years younger than a PvE server. I've played about 6 servers extensively.. 4 PvP and 2 PvE, and the PvE community is far more mature.

[Harem]

My trouble with PvP servers is that it doesn't have to be this way. Why spend all our time fighting when we could invest a tenth of that effort to sit down around a table and talk? In a world with infinite resources, conjurable provisions and effective immortality, surely we could find some common ground and work out the most intractable problems between our factions, e.g. legal partition of Ashenvale and demilitarization of Warsong Gulch; an agreement with the Royal Apothecary Society to cease its support for the insurgency in Hillsbrad in return for a standing-down of the outer guard perimeter at Southshore; a joint venture between the Horde and Ironforge to create a tram connecting the Undercity to Stonard via Kargath, creating jobs and reducing tensions through Dun Morogh and the Wetlands. Where reasonable people will take the time to talk with other reasonable people, the possibilities are endless.

LOL!! Awesome!