Ok did a quest line ...

[Vyndree]

im sure at 10 levels below the mob, you're going to miss or get resisted about 80% of the time, if not more.

Watch my 5 level 29's take on Stitches (at the very end of this video about 5:55 -- it's part of the credits)... I also have the Draenei +hit aura. This was around BC time, so patch 2.something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cGgd9uNB5g

Level 35 elite.... Level 29 chars (when Stitches was filmed -- they're ~35 in RFK)... 6 level difference... He's at.. what... 90% when I wipe?

[Sam DeathWalker]

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1482 gave me 9900 exp, if I didn't get 3X times the exp listed I would have looked it up. The quest starts at level 25, why would you expect that I would not get full exp based on "level cap" when I am of the proper level to start the quest?

Ya if one guy is left from the tag group I win ... but I can see that a elite mob currently 10 levels above me isnt going to be nuked down with 90 percent resists. No rush Ill get him sooner or later.

[Vyndree]

The quest doesn't start at 25...

It REQUIRES level 25 to even put the quest in your log.

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1482

?Level: 35
?Requires level 25

The quest is actually targeted for a level 35.

If you take a look at the difficulty scale on wowhead, you'll see it turns yellow at 33 and green at 38.


And if you read the wowhead comments...

A fair warning: this quest will make you hate WoW. This quest will make you hate humanity. This quest will make you want to punch a baby.

Most of the nagas are underwater, the drop rate of the oracle crystal is low, the spawn of the oracles is shared with that of all other slitherblades, and, should you die, the corpse run is longer than you'd expect

The end of the quest chain...

?Level: 40
?Requires level 25
?Type: Group

You'll see a level 25 can PICK UP the quest, but it's targeted for level 40. Furthermore, it's a GROUP quest, so it's actually designed for a GROUP of level 40's.

It's also yellow at 38 and green at 43.

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1488

[Bigfish]

The quest starts at level 25, why would you expect that I would not get full exp based on "level cap" when I am of the proper level to start the quest?

Quests, like mobs, have a level, and the amount of XP you get from that quest is based on your level in relation to the target quest's level. In the manner that quests work, Quests more than 5 levels lower than the character comopleting them start seeing a penalty on what the quest SHOULD reward, and in the same fashion, completing a quest that is available at a lower level but has an actual quest level +5 levels higher than your current level, you get xp as though you had completed a Level+4 quest.

That's how its supposed to work, anyway. I haven't delved in to calculation for quest xp for a while.

Edit: Ok, upon further research in to what is listed at WoWwiki, there is no over-level cap for quest xp. It does start degrading at -5 levels though, which can be confusing because a quest can still be green at up to -8 or 9 levels, depending on what level you are. This also may not apply to all quests, since some quests are apparently varable level (many class quests).

[Hachoo]

Also keep in mind if sam wanted he could kill this mob with all 25 of his characters - he would just have to have 5 separate non-raid groups and tag the mob first with the group that he wanted the credit for. I'm pretty sure 25 level 25s could take on one level 35.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I always use 26 to kill mobs.

I have

/assist Samdeathwkzz
/castsequence Frost Shock,,

On F2.

On F1 I have:

/assist Samdeathwkzz
/castsequence ,Earth Shock,

F1 is tied to my mouse button.

On the group I want to get exp I move the Frost Shock macro to F1, so they fire first and tag (pal just gets proximity agro). So I click twice and 5 Frosts hit the mob, then 20 Earch Shocks (I got the 45 percent reduction talent heh), result instant dead mob. So I keep doing that untill the first group gets their quest done and then move the Frost Shock macro to F1 on the 2nd group and move the Earth Shocks back to the F2 on the group that completed its quest. Also if I find a mob that is immune to earth shock and I can use the keyboard and hit F2 and he gets 20 frosts instead!

So the oracal part was easy enough for me cause I just keep killing mobs on the island untill I got each group the quest (didnt go underwater as its a hassel), takes awhile but Im naturally also getting raf exp killing mobs at the same time. And because the mobs are kinda high Im getting like 180 exp off each, for all 5 in the tag group.

Naturally a full group of 35 or 40 is recomended for this quest but 25 level 30s can finish up to the last step without to many problems.

My advantage of having 26 is that I can kill mobs that a group of 5 people say 5-8 levels above me can kill. So I should do quests higher then my level as well they give more exp ....

[Gadzooks]

Have you read anything about the Caps on Quest XP based on level?

No?

Fool.

Not for nothing, but this is the kind of thing that will make me stop coming here. If I wanted to read posts abusing other players, I could go to the Customer Service Forums on the WoW site.

I understand being firm with noobs who want their hands held, but Sam doesn't deserve abuse like this - nobody does - and I've yet to see Sam be rude to anyone. If I'm wrong, please point me to his remarks, and I'll take it back.

The one thing I LOVE about this site and this community is it's friendly and has none of the attitude that has ruined the WoW forums. I may not agree with everything Sam does, or understand his choices, but he's doing something very interesting and unique - you should be supporting him.

[Caspian]

It is like a hogger raid. Our MB hogger raid was way over kill. But I have 15 manned hogger with all level 1s. With 25 it think Sam has a chance. What's the worst that happens? He gets the smack down. That is just part of the wow learning curve. Plus, for me at least, that is a big part of the fun of the game - doing things that "you shouldn't be able to do".

Mor'ladim I think it was, who wandered the Duskwood graveyard. He was like a 35 elite roaming an area you can start quest in your low 20s. If you leveled through there in the old days and he didn't gank you something was wrong. I duo'd him at 27 with my wife on a pair of hunters. Took 3 tries but we did it. With 25 or 26 or whatever what Sam wants to do should be doable. I would recommend spreading your groups out if you can to try and bounce aggro - mob running between guys = more of your dudes alive.

Also, I thought they changed it so you got the same XP for red,orange, yellow and green quests (not mobs) that you only got less when it went low level - gray. I will see if I can find info on that.

[EDIT]
Yes, that is the way it currently works http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...estbasics.html

Now, higher level quests will give you more relative XP then at level or lower level quests. But, in theory at least for normal players, it should be easier to do many at level quests then above level quests in the same about of time.

[Shonkey]

Have you read anything about the Caps on Quest XP based on level?

No?

Fool.

Poor Form from a mod imo.

[Moorea]

Have you read anything about the Caps on Quest XP based on level?

No?

Fool.

I've been playing wow for years, but I have no idea what you mean or why it is relevant to sam's thread. someone care to elaborate what the point of this was (beside being a flame)