Best hate conversation ever

[succulent]

I've found that morons are the ones who typically talk in /s rather than whispering you directly with questions etc. I never respond to anything in /s -- if you can't solve the tricksy problem of figuring out how to whisper, I'm pretty sure you don't have anything intelligent to say anyway.

[RobinGBrown]

I reported a guy this weekend for harassment. I complained about some crap in the trade channel (RP server) and asked people to take it to a private channel (was singleboxing tradeskills). This guys whispers me and calls me a $%&# (profanity filter on) so I replied '/reported' and put him on ignore.

He logs on to another character and does it again, I do the same /reported+ignored, and he does it a couple more times. Adding the guys who harassed me to friends I notice that they're from 4 different accounts as they're all logged on at once. An 80, a 79, a 23 and a 24. I've already reported them for harassment but when I speak to the GM I tell him that there's something strange going on as this one guy has four accounts in all different places (he wasn't boosting the lowbies they were in a different continent). About two mins later the two lowbies both log off simultaneously.

I think the guy was botting the lowbies while he moaned in trade with his lvl 80, so the lesson is if you're in a grey area or doing something outright wrong you should be polite to other people - you never know when or who will report you.

[Basilikos]

[quote='Tonuss',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166261 #post166261]

But reporting you for harassment could stick, since Blizzard's rules cover the act of using different characters to get around an /ignore. Granted, it's typically a short ban and the idiot you were dealing with does not seem bright enough to figure it out (and it was worth it to watch him swear at you, I can imagine his reaction when he got his ban). But I think it is probable that if he had been smart enough to report you, you would've had action taken against one or all accounts.

He continued to communicate after he ignored the first account, without my prompting. Also, he claimed to have reported each of the characters. That's what the first part of my OP was for - EACH of my characters had cause to discuss the incident with him.

[Vyndree]

None of us is really saying that psting them was wrong from a moral sense, just that there IS a loophole in the rules that says "If I /ignore them, and they continue trying to talk to me, it CAN be (CAN, not necessarily WILL) a bannable offense because it is considered harassment".

That's all we're really saying. Psting someone after they /ignore you (anyone, multiboxer or not) is a reportable and POTENTIALLY bannable offense. And, according to Blizz, BOTH parties are investigated for wrongdoing whenever a report is made -- so regardless the other guy's stuff in /say that he harassed you with after /ignore would also be considered.



Basically -- both the guy, and you, have TECHNICALLY by-the-rules participated in harassing behavior. Both COULD be bannable, but that's up to 1) a person to report and 2) the GM to decide. *shrug*


Anyway, I'm not really criticizing what you did -- it's a natural impulse to continue a conversation -- particularly if they instigate it... But instigation or not, I just wanted to make sure you're aware that he could've been trying to taunt you into a ban so you might want to be careful in the future.

[Farleito]

If I /ignore them, and they continue trying to talk to me, it CAN be (CAN, not necessarily WILL) a bannable offense

In this situation, I disagree.

The "moron" was just being lazy. If he acknowledged that all 5 characters were a single person, he should have /ignored all of them right away.

A while back, I was chatting with a friend in a vent server as he was getting replaced in a heroic for no apparant reason, other than they wanted their friend to run with them but they were not on at the time they started. They removed him from the group, but since they downed a boss, he was saved to the instance (no auto-hearth). He gave them the "you wasted my time, now I'm going to waste yours." They paged a GM to remove him from the instance. The GM whispered him, "...I can't make you leave..and if you don't, you're going to make enemies." He explained his side of the story, and the GM said this is partially the reason why you are "saved" to the instance. While he was chatting with the GM, he was /ignoring everybody in the group because they kept bugging him to leave. When he had the entire group on /ignore, they were asking their guild members to whisper him. He mentioned this to the GM...the GM asked him to create a new ticket, and finally responded with "...all I can suggest is to either 1) Turn off chat 2) Logout 3) /ignore every incoming whisper." He also added that if any of the incoming whispers became threatening or offensive (in the eye's of blizzard; he tried to claim that the word "instance" meant "big floppy donkey penis" in his "native" language), he would need to create a new ticket for each one. The GM saw thru his BS and the games that the other guys were playing and quickly uninvolved himself.

If an entire guild can send whispers, after getting /ignored one at a time...a multi-boxer can do the same.





Who starts a conversation and then puts the other person on ignore when they try to reply? If I was a GM and received both complaints, I would suspend both accounts for wasting my time. This is why I disable chat.

[Basilikos]

Anyway, I'm not really criticizing what you did -- it's a natural impulse to continue a conversation -- particularly if they instigate it... But instigation or not, I just wanted to make sure you're aware that he could've been trying to taunt you into a ban so you might want to be careful in the future.

Ah. Now I get you. Yeah, I thought of that before I whispered him after the /ignore.

[mmcookies]

for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

[Bigfish]

for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

God, AMEN! I hate when people use "pst" as a verb. Its not the phonetic sound of a whisper trying to get someone's attention, its an acronym asking for correspondance.

[Vyndree]

for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

God, AMEN! I hate when people use "pst" as a verb. Its not the phonetic sound of a whisper trying to get someone's attention, its an acronym asking for correspondance.

Do you /tell a person or do you /whisper a person?

/t and /tell are both IN the game, but I've never seen or heard of anyone who uses those commands over /w and /whisper.

So is it "Please send TELL?" or is it the sound of a WHISPER? And if you /w me in response, does it count as a tell even though you used a whisper command?

Conundrums.





Oh, and P.S. -- as for "they should /ignore all 5" -- there's a limit of how many people you can have on /ignore at any given point in time. If they put your current conversationalist on /ignore, and by talking to all of you have acknowledged that you are all the same person, they are effectively giving you a "I do not want to talk to you" message, which you are circumventing.

I'm not really defending them as a particular party, just saying that it's not our decision to make on what is a justified or unjustified bannable offense. If a GM decides that you both are in the wrong, they will action both.

[mmcookies]

assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?