Windows 7!!! omg amazing

[Tonuss]

I understand what Ellusionist is trying to say, but not all end users are that ignorant.

Many of them are, but that's how it is with consumers (and I include myself in there); they expect the manufacturer or retailer to help them. This is reasonable to an extent, though these days there's so much information out there that you should be able to get somewhat of a clue before you buy. But reality is what it is, and people will trust that if an OEM installed Windows Vista, it'll work the way Microsoft said it would in those TV ads. Well, when it doesn't, who is going to get the blame? Microsoft, mostly. And they deserve some of it, as well.

The Windows XP rollout was similar to Vista, IMO, with a lot of complaining and resisting. I believe that MS also extended Windows 2000 installation options for a while. To me, the biggest indicator of how bad Vista's rollout went is the fact that MS rushed Windows 7 development and seems to have it on track for a 2009 rollout, and they seem to have listened to the complaints. That's pretty huge, because there has to be a significant cost attached to what they're doing now, and they're willing to pay it in order to make Vista go away. Score one for the angry consumer, I guess. It does seem as if Windows 7 will be an excellent upgrade.

My intention is to buy and install it later this year, after it has shipped. I will then build my next monster computer station and run Win7-64 bit. Since I've reduced my debt over the past year quite a bit, I'll be able to afford to splurge. Core i7, gobs of Gigs, tons of Teras, so on and so forth...

[Ève <Wolfpack>]

oO New toy new Free toy 8o

Eve

[Oswyn]

Most people just buy a computer so they can check their e-mail or browse the web. These are the people that give Vista a bad name, because they think their $399 OEM PC should be able to run the latest and greatest software with huge success.

Your statement is flawed.

*MOST* people buy a computer and expect it to work, out of the box. Not tweak it - not modify security settings - not have an MSCE cert. to use their PC. They are END USERS. They "user" the PC, they don't understand how it works, and they shouldn't have too.

Many of my co-workers (I'm a systems engineer) praise Vista. Ya - from a MSCE standpoint Vista is great - after to tweak it to your specifications.

To the rest of the Non-IT-Geek world - Vista is a STEAMING PILE OF SHIT. (and it offers absolutely nothing in terms of performance enchantments to the typical office worker, hence is a complete waste of money)

Your statement is flawed. All of the people I know that are non-IT-Geek love Vista and have not had any issues.

[Taurgos22]

Are you able to go from 32bit vista to 64 bit w7? If so am i able to do the upgrade install and keep my old files or do i need to do a clean install. Any help would be great!

[d0z3rr]

Most people just buy a computer so they can check their e-mail or browse the web. These are the people that give Vista a bad name, because they think their $399 OEM PC should be able to run the latest and greatest software with huge success.

Your statement is flawed.

*MOST* people buy a computer and expect it to work, out of the box. Not tweak it - not modify security settings - not have an MSCE cert. to use their PC. They are END USERS. They "user" the PC, they don't understand how it works, and they shouldn't have too.

Many of my co-workers (I'm a systems engineer) praise Vista. Ya - from a MSCE standpoint Vista is great - after to tweak it to your specifications.

To the rest of the Non-IT-Geek world - Vista is a STEAMING PILE OF SHIT. (and it offers absolutely nothing in terms of performance enchantments to the typical office worker, hence is a complete waste of money)

What's an MSCE?? MCSE? Which doesn't even have much value anymore. 2008 is the new "steaming pile of shit" - MCITP.

So, typical office workers do not value drive encryption? Better handling of memory? Rewritten tcp stack? SMB 2.0? Two-way firewall?
All of those equate to better performance, better security in "end user" terms.

Oh well, have fun in the past! :thumbsup:

[d0z3rr]

Are you able to go from 32bit vista to 64 bit w7? If so am i able to do the upgrade install and keep my old files or do i need to do a clean install. Any help would be great!

Clean install. 32bit is completely different architecture than 64bit. It would need a complete OS reinstall. Depending on how your hard drive is partitioned, you may or may not be able to keep your old files.

[Taurgos22]

ahh alrighty. thanks alot

[Knobley]

Re-read your first sentence. It's a total "you're fucking wrong dude".

Your statement is flawed. What he said was, "Your statement is flawed" not "you're fucking wrong dude".

[Oternakn]

LOL make a post about A OS and how it improve ur boxing and peeps start bashing each other about other opinions non related to boxing :thumbup:
And and to those that wonder if W7 64bit is better than xp 64bit. ITS WAY better and its a beta. But remember guys if u dont got the skills dont install a beta, cuz it could go wrong pretty fast, like if u dont know how to install it... Dont do it.

[jettzypher]

actually...it retains everything that was originally on the HDD if you install 7 over it. it takes everything and sticks it in a folder named Windows.old. my install did at least, and i went from 32bit to 64bit.