Thanks for all that item info, I had a bit of it but not all.

Im farming HoL atm to get the trinket off Loken and with the other Boe epics I will easily be at the defense cap so I can worry about stam then. Im still running 4 elementals as I was hoping to do bg's with them however the only bg im really enjoy is AV and theres hour long queue times at the moment on my server theres no1 playing. Im going to respec one to resto for awhile till I can get ahead and hopefully go back to 4 ele once I gear up enough and dont need heals every 2 seconds, or until dual specs come in.

Ill try gundrak and zuldrak also when im ready to try them again. I kinda liked the gundrak instance too so if i can manage to clear it ill be happy. I have a feeling the hardest part is just getting started, once I got some gear and can manage to clear a heroic like a normal one gear should come in no time with the amount of badges you could collect.

Whats the verdict on 10 man naxx? If I get the gear mentioned above good enough for heroics would it be pugable with another 5, I know another 5 boxer on the server also if any of it would be possible to box or does it require some movement. even if I could only farm a boss or two for some more badges