The Owls ding 80 - then proceed to get annihilated in arena

[Bovidae]

Im at 600 resil, 16k hp and at 1200 rating but still manage to barely get two casts (FS+LvB) off before being AOEd down. Somehow, I've managed to get 2-28 record, amazing.

AOE stun/silence, spell imunity, BUBBLES, forget it, just go in, die, repeatX10, collect your 200 arena points

[Stabface]

It's faster to just let the queue expire and go 0-10 that way.

I have almost 22K HP and 620 resil on my Warlock and it's better than I used to be, but I still die in 3-4 GCD's to a single rogue/paladin/dk.

[Siaea]

It's faster to just let the queue expire and go 0-10 that way.

I've never arena'd (solo or boxing). Do you still get points that way?

I've been throwing around the idea of trying it, I have a DK and 4 Shammy team. All 4 shammies are decked out with the Titansteel Guardian and an epic spellpower shield I found on AH (Zom's Crackling Bulwark i think it's called). Do any of you think that's a viable team for 5s? The shaman are elemental and the DK is Unholy with a mix of frost and blood for the tanking stats. Dk has 23k health, shammies I think are sitting around 12k with about 1400 spellpower with flametongue. None have resilienc much in resilience. To be honest, my dk hasn't seen a single bg, and the shammies haven't been in since level 70.

[homerjunior]

definitely get epic flying, there is an insane amount of gold to be made doing quests in all the zones plus dailies (Sons of Hodir, Icecrown, etc) and without a epic flyer you will be tearing your hair out. There are a few spots where you have to basically wait a few seconds for everyone to "phase" back and then refollow, and its especially bad inside Icecrown, but I run 5x team and all have epic flyers and while I yell at the screen daily due to phasing, I don't lose anyone in the zones without phasing (Howling, Sholozar, Dragon, Grizzly, Gundark, Borean).

I'm debating whether I should take the 8.5k gold and try to powerlevel JC on all three toons just enough to be able to do the daily. I'm not sure how much the dragon eyes go for on Dalaran, and I'm also not sure if they current high prices will continue into the future. It's an odd feeling not knowing anything about level 80. At level 70, since I only had to concentrate on one toon I knew exactly what I wanted as soon as I dinged in BC. Now I just feel a bit lost.

Hell, I don't even know if 8.5k gold would be enough to get all three druids up in JC high enough to do the daily JC quest.

They are going to go down in value since JC is getting a combine that can produce Dragon's Eye, Sure it costs a frozen orb, but I am swimming in those right now.

It is a 20 hour CD and also only a chance of getting one, That's like saying the Dragon's Eye prices would drop over damaged necklace's they should stay the same

[Perrigrin]

Im at 600 resil, 16k hp and at 1200 rating but still manage to barely get two casts (FS+LvB) off before being AOEd down. Somehow, I've managed to get 2-28 record, amazing.

AOE stun/silence, spell imunity, BUBBLES, forget it, just go in, die, repeatX10, collect your 200 arena points

Is it worth doing that? All the arena gear I saw on the merchant (haven't bothered checking the web :P) has minimum rating requirements - So the old 10 loss gain a little aint worth it these days?

[Perrigrin]

Yes - You get points even for 10 losses.

As for being worth it, you will probably be dead in less than 30 seconds in most games - And lucky if you get a single kill - That's how it goes for my pal+4 sham team, although in worse gear than you have.

It's faster to just let the queue expire and go 0-10 that way.

I've never arena'd (solo or boxing). Do you still get points that way?

I've been throwing around the idea of trying it, I have a DK and 4 Shammy team. All 4 shammies are decked out with the Titansteel Guardian and an epic spellpower shield I found on AH (Zom's Crackling Bulwark i think it's called). Do any of you think that's a viable team for 5s? The shaman are elemental and the DK is Unholy with a mix of frost and blood for the tanking stats. Dk has 23k health, shammies I think are sitting around 12k with about 1400 spellpower with flametongue. None have resilienc much in resilience. To be honest, my dk hasn't seen a single bg, and the shammies haven't been in since level 70.

[larifari]

^^i m glad if i kill one or two , but still 0-10 in my third week ( 4 Shamans, 1 Pala ). But my pala is still tankskilled- i don´t know if i should buy healer or damage gear...i don´t think i can heal anything, right konw my toons die much too fast.
Blizzard made the melees much too strong- normaly they should get great damage only with highend gear. My goal is 1520 in season one

[Owltoid]

Have you looked at the craftable resil gear? it is not the best for sure but it will get some resil and you should end up with a lot more HP and decent SP. It is also fairly cheap to make, and usually even cheaper to buy because people make it to level their LW? It is a good starting point I think.

I took a look at thottbot last night and I found lvl 78 craftable gear. Is this the stuff you're talking about? If so, then I'm wondering if it would be worth power leveling a druid to get their LW high enough and then make it all myself. Since I need 3x a full set it seems like I could get quite a few skill points for stuff I can actually use.

[Caspian]

Have you looked at the craftable resil gear? it is not the best for sure but it will get some resil and you should end up with a lot more HP and decent SP. It is also fairly cheap to make, and usually even cheaper to buy because people make it to level their LW? It is a good starting point I think.

I took a look at thottbot last night and I found lvl 78 craftable gear. Is this the stuff you're talking about? If so, then I'm wondering if it would be worth power leveling a druid to get their LW high enough and then make it all myself. Since I need 3x a full set it seems like I could get quite a few skill points for stuff I can actually use.

That is the stuff I was talking about. It isn't great but it is a reasonable starting point for a fresh 80.

I don't think LW is that hard to power level but that is your call. I personally would want to farm as much of the leather as possible because the mid level leather is crazy expensive on my server (heavy thick and rugged). Skinning is by far the fastest profession to level though so it wouldn't be too bad. All the crafting professions now have pretty decent things to make for themselves (BoP). The LW one is Embossing I believe.

Having it made you could be in arena tonight. Doing it ourself you could be in by the end of the weekend and have the ability to make some PvE gear as well as the leg enchants which seem to sell well.

Edit
Well maybe not that fast - for your 3 guys it is
1512 Borean leather (252 Heavy leather) and 24 eternal water to make the set http://www.wowhead.com/?search=overcast

Plus the recipes cost 3 heavy Borean leather each from the vendor for 24 more or another 144 Borean leather.

I think it would be easier to buy the mats and have it crafted or look for it on the AH, at least with the prices on Uther.

[emesis]

I agree; unless you're a profession nut (like me), far better to buy the craftable directly off the AH, or just the mats, then level LWing. Farming just doesn't scale the way dailies/quests do. Although you can kill tons of mobs, you still end up mob starved with more than 2 toons relative to how much you _could_ kill, plus you still have to loot/skin 'em all one at a time.

Most of the level 78 LW blues take about 10 borean heavy leather and 1 eternal water, that's no more than 40g in mats in the Bonechewer AH, or 3 level 80 dailies (10 minutes?) on a single toon. Pretty easy to find someone to craft em for free if they are skilling up, or for a modest crafting fee. Should be able to afford the whole set in a couple hours of dailies or quests at level 80.