DKs are the new 4x Shamans IMO

[Zub]

I just can't see a lvl 71 DK killing 5 80 shaman unless they were all afk.

He's boxing 4 DKs.

[Kicksome]

It's impossible to chain heal when 4x death and decays is under you, each with a 20% chance to make you cower and interrupt you spells. You MIGHT get 1 chain heal off if you're lucky. Not even close enough to help with all the damage you're taking. Also, there are all sorts of diseases going on besides death and decay. Also, I have pestilence 4x on the ground, makes you go 50% slower. It's a death trap for sure.

I have 4x 80 shamans too, along with the 4x DKs. You can't move your guys out of death and decay because at least 1/2 are cowering, the ones that do get out get death gripped back in, and they are moving at 1/2 speed with pestilence going on.

Right now I'm all unholy spec. I like the ghoul pet and all the AOE stuff I get. That way it's not quite as bad if one of my guys is facing a different direction.

Right now, I spam this macro
/startattack
/castrandom [target=focustarget] icy touch, Pestilence, plague strike, blood boil, Scourge Strike, Unholy Blight, Death Strike

and I also throw in a manual death and decay, that's about it.

[Hachoo]

LOL @ people making entire group compisition changes before the very first balancing patch has been made post-expansion.

Seriously, if you think the "current balance" is going to remain for long you'd have to be mental, there hasn't even been a single patch yet, and I guarantee the next 2-3 will be full of balancing changes.

[Kicksome]

Hi Suprafro, fun going against you the other night. I almost wish I would have brought my shamans!

Someone said - oh #$#@ multiboxing shamans. I was thinking to myself, wait, I'm not playing my shamans. Then I look on the who and see you - I was like oh crap!

I'd probably roll 4x DKs and 1x Shaman, or 5x DKs and drop one around level 70 and use one of your 80 shamans for a healer.

I leveled up 4 shaman to 80, so I had one stuck at 70 that I used to replace one of the DKs. So I'm using 4x DKs, 1x Shaman, just about all 73 now.

It REALLY sucks not having a healer while leveling, it also sucks not being able to rez, that's why I finally dropped a DK and put a shaman in. Now I can run instances etc... Also having a tremor totem, windfury and healing stream totem comes in really handy.

[Kicksome]

LOL @ people making entire group compisition changes before the very first balancing patch has been made post-expansion.

Seriously, if you think the "current balance" is going to remain for long you'd have to be mental, there hasn't even been a single patch yet, and I guarantee the next 2-3 will be full of balancing changes.

I only go off of what I actually see. Not what I hope for, or what I THINK Blizzard MIGHT do in the future.

You realize that it's close to 3 months since the talent tree changes came out? Before that they were on the beta server for months. Shamans have been bitching about bad DPS for the past 6+ months and now we're FINALLY getting a 10% dps increase (well, not yet), with a nerf to PVP. I waited 6 months for a 10% increase to dps, after getting a 13% DECREASE when the new talent tree came out. So at best, we're back to where we started. And EVERYONE else got MUCH better. We lost our instant crit CL and gained thunderstorm.

There's nothing that's even been mentioned that will buff shamans in PvP. It's pretty obvious ele shamans have been put on the back burner (look at the caster mail itemization in naxx).

[Ellay]

Doesn't the Death and Decay proc have diminishing returns? I heard it was 2 seconds > 1 seconds > .5 > immune.

[Multibocks]

good question, but problem is... by that time half your team is dead from the spell interrupts. Oh and the person who said "chain heal if AMZ is up" uh... you gonna chain heal for 2mins? (4 DKs x 30sec a piece if you dont do enough damage to take it down) Ya that aint gonna work. Not to mention they can blow AMS after that. Trust me, once DKs get into my shamans and drop their shield it's game over. That's why I do my best to never let them near my shaman, grounding totems for their pull and roundrobin Thunderstorms... which is only good against the bad DKs. ;(

edit: P.S. Hoping Blizzard nerfs a class is FUTILE. HELLO ROGUES/DRUIDS 2s all of BC... ya they needed a ridiculous nerf and it never happened. Even if it did it would probably be talked about for months before they actually did anything. God I have been waiting for my shaman changes forever.

[Multibocks]

Right now, I spam this macro
/startattack
/castrandom [target=focustarget] icy touch, Pestilence, plague strike, blood boil, Scourge Strike, Unholy Blight, Death Strike

no /follow leader after each? I manually do my rotations so after each cast I make the slaves /follow the current leader. Makes them more mobile, although Im sure this isnt the only way to do it.

[Kicksome]

Doesn't the Death and Decay proc have diminishing returns? I heard it was 2 seconds > 1 seconds > .5 > immune.

It's getting nerfed next patch to be 10% proc AND diminishing returns. Right now it doesn't have diminishing returns, at least from what I've seen and heard.

I used it tonight at the gate to Wintergrasp (right before the orb), it was insane, I must of had at least 50 horde cowering for 30 seconds.

[Kicksome]

Right now, I spam this macro
/startattack
/castrandom [target=focustarget] icy touch, Pestilence, plague strike, blood boil, Scourge Strike, Unholy Blight, Death Strike

no /follow leader after each? I manually do my rotations so after each cast I make the slaves /follow the current leader. Makes them more mobile, although Im sure this isnt the only way to do it.

I have another button that does the same macro with a follow built in. I need to start using it more, I get a lot of runners spamming follow.