What are shaman groups seeing for DPS in heroics?

[Kaynin]

Average heroic if I don't slack, 2200-2400 dps, depends a bit on how much mob per trash ratio is.

But tbh, I've started to slack here and there when possible for a more relaxing run. :P

[Hachoo]

I ran Gun'drak again last night (using the same macros I always use), and paid a bit more attention to my rotations and squeezed out 1620 dps or so. I think if I REALLY wanted to, I could squeeze out >2000.

On trash, I use mana spring totem so I never have to drink anything, and that means I have to waste a few seconds healing which drops by DPS (but by less than resting between every 2 pulls would do). Also, on trash pulls I ONLY use flame shock on the first mob, then I don't use any flameshock/LvB combos after that, which hurts my DPS but honestly I'd rather lose some DPS then have to focus so much getting the exact optimal combo.

On bosses I do use more optimal combos but again I have to heal a bunch - I'll have to recount on just a boss fight once to see what I'm pulling there. Honestly unless I'm having trouble with an encounter its just not worth the effort to get the rotation exactly optimal when it takes exponentially more attention/effort

[pinotnoir]

Chain lightning will be dropped from the rotation according to what I have been reading about the patch. It will only be used on trash that has more than 1 mob. The mana cost and damage is just not worth it I guess. Geared shaman will be doing lb spam in between lavaburst.

[Deekhay]

I tried this hybrid spec in orgrimmar dummies and in fact together with castrandom LvB LB with separate FS I get an increase in DPS of around 25% with my 4 Elemental Shaman just self buffed. I can imagine what it'll be like with raid buffs.

The most noticeable thing is, I placed 4 mana totems like I usually do and it's extremely hard to run oom... it's unbelieavable... Spammed like crazy, for about 12min (twice refreshing totems and once water shield and:

Was still at around 20% mana having done a total of 9.97k dps and 6306k total damage.

It comes basically from more shock cost reduction and not using CL I think.

[Niley]

I tried this hybrid spec in orgrimmar dummies and in fact together with castrandom LvB LB with separate FS I get an increase in DPS of around 25% with my 4 Elemental Shaman just self buffed. I can imagine what it'll be like with raid buffs.

The most noticeable thing is, I placed 4 mana totems like I usually do and it's extremely hard to run oom... it's unbelieavable... Spammed like crazy, for about 12min (twice refreshing totems and once water shield and:

Was still at around 20% mana having done a total of 9.97k dps and 6306k total damage.

It comes basically from more shock cost reduction and not using CL I think.

Correct me if Im wrong, but mana spring doesnt stack, unless its talented one+ untalented one(I tried 4 of them and only one showed in my combat log).
The problem with that spec is that if You have to move around, You only have 20 yards range, and there is very good chance that You will go out of range, also the lack of shield is meh:P I only have my main specced that, rest of the shammies are deep ele.

[Hachoo]

Welcome to 3.0. Mana spring has stacked since before WoTLK. It changed from a noticeable buff to a "pulse" like tremor totem, as did healing stream totem. So yes, mana springs stack as much as you want Too bad they dont get a boost from +spellpower like healing stream does or 1 mana spring would probably be enough for infinite mana (of course thats probably why they didn't do it LOL).

[Maklar]

Niley, what totems is your main using? IE, is it using Searing Totem and getting the benefit of Totem of Wrath from your slaves?

[Hachoo]

Welcome to 3.0. Mana spring has stacked since before WoTLK.

Actaully, it didn't stack Pre-Wotlk. It does now though.

But it only affects your group. It won't effect other groups within a raid.

So if you're raiding, it might be beneficial to spread your Shaman out a little.

I'm pretty sure it started stacking in 3.0 which came out about a month before WoTLK.

[Gares]

I was just looking at that SS in the other thread. I'm still boggled by your numbers.

I think having a dk added a whole lot more dps to my group, Ive been having some moments when I think in my head " O sh!t" that boss died so fast, after i swapped from pally to dk tank.
Im going to try do one more of those test things soon, see how it goes with better gear and maybe heroism.

I thought about adding a DK Tank to my mix as well but I am not even sure how I would level him super fast?

Any thoughts?

I could probably tag with him and just DPS elites down for hours but I dunno if the change is worth it from a Pally.

Edit: Also with a cast sequence macro I end up getting around 1500-1800 DPS on the dummies self buffed.

I tried using /castrandom with FS, LVB, LB, CL, and it seems to either lower my DPS slightly or match what I get in cast sequence. From what I am reading we should just use /CR LB, LVB and manually apply Flame Shock. My only issue with this is there is so much going on I like only smashing 2 buttons. My DPS from shammies button and my Pally tank spam button. (I heal with my resto from my mouse). I just know I cannot be always looking to apply the Flameshock when it is coming off. Unless there is a mod that would show me while I am playing my tank (Which I don't think there is)

[puppychow]

I use pitbull and it shows all the debuffs the target has, I reapply flameshock whenever the 2-3 that are on the target drop off (every 18 secs). my 2 button is my /castrandom DPS macro on my shamans and my "tank uber macro", I use shift-2 to cast flameshock on my shamans. makes it super ez. (1 casts lhw on my pally from my resto shaman).