PiP == trashed FPS on main - need restart to recover - any idea ?

[Moorea]

I have this really annoying problem where after I switch my main window and clones a few times, the fps on the main drops from max (30) to 4 or 6, ie basically unplayable and doesn't seem to recover beside exiting wow - anyone else seen this ? any workaround ? any chance to get a newer release of keyclone with better PIP ? (june was a while ago since last release)

here is my regions settings if that helps:
[regions]
count=5
region_name_00='wow2'
region_00=1,1536,0,1920,300,0,0
region_pip_00=0,(113.1.1)
region_res_00=768,600,0
region_name_01='wow3'
region_01=1,1536,300,1920,600,0,0
region_pip_01=0,(114.1.1)
region_res_01=768,600,0
region_name_02='wow4'
region_02=1,1536,600,1920,900,0,0
region_pip_02=0,(115.1.1)
region_res_02=768,600,0
region_name_03='main'
region_03=1,0,0,1536,1200,0,0
region_pip_03=0,(112.1.1)
region_res_03=1536,1200,1
region_name_04='wow5'
region_04=1,1536,900,1920,1200,0,0
region_pip_04=0,(116.1.1)
region_res_04=768,600,0


edited: put "trashed" instead of "dropped" fps in subject in the hope ppl stop thinking I'm talking about background vs foreground fps

[keyclone]

i have seen a situation where the wow window won't realize it doesn't have focus, and will try to remain at maxfps (30 fps). at which point, 2 or more wows would be trying to get 30 fps, instead of 1 doing 30 fps and the others doing 12.

i normally run with the fps shown (ctrl+R to toggle it on by default)... and if i notice one of the windows above the maxfpsbk, i mouse in and the mouse out. nothing more. (with focus-follows-mouse enabled). this usually alerts the wow window of the fact that it lost focus and it drops its fps from maxfps to maxfpsbk

[Moorea]

that happens too but what I'm talking about here is that my main window drops way under the min fps - basically its like wow in that window gets hosed - strangely switching to an alt; that window is fine (can even go back to max fps) but getting it back as main and it drops to a few fps/horrible lag... it's really irritating as it happens about every few switches between my 5th and my main (shift-f5)

edit: at the moment it happens 100% of the time I switch to my 5th window :-( and I have to exit everything and restart everything to recover - extremely painful :-(

[Darelik]

dual monitor?

[Moorea]

no, single 1920x1200 (dimensions of each window in first post; with same aspect ratio)

[keyclone]

try this... i've been experimenting with it and its given very nice results.

let's say your main region is 1100x1200... odds are, you've set the in-game resolution on all your regions to 1100x1200 so when you pip swap, the minimap is proper. all the wows will then render an area that is 1100x1200, even though the screen is smaller.

try this instead:
set the in-game resolution on ALL regions to 1/2 of the current size.. dividing with width and height by 2 each. in my example, i would set the in-game res to 550x600 on ALL regions.

by doing this, i have told wow to render 25% of the original number of pixels... and the bitblt to fill the screen is just a 200% zoom, which is fast and done in hardware. this seems to reduce the cpu/gpu requirement and allows for faster swaps... at least so far on my set up.

let me know what you think.

[Moorea]

I use 1536x1200 1-1 on main and 384x300 with 768x600 for wow rez on small windows - so I have the same aspect ratio on all windows and all a factor of 1/2 or 2x in between and use all the space in my 1920x1200 screen - again the odd part is it works fine for most swaps and then suddenly enter a bad mode when swapping 5th and main

ps: Happy New Year to you all ! Best Wishes for 2009 !

[Moorea]

I tried your suggestion - I set all wows to 768x600 but when I swapped my main and first alt it entered the "5 fps" mode again when I switched back :-(

I think there is a problem with PiP

[Pact]

I get this problem sometimes.

The solution ive found that works for me is to pip switch through all your windows until you find the one that is running at the maxfps.
Once youve found it just swap back to whichever view you want and it should makes things normal again.

[keyclone]

i don't think it's pip, as the maxfps and maxfpsbk are set when wow starts up.

if the fps drops to 5 fps, that's telling me the system is getting crushed and is only able to get 5 fps for some reason. i would check the fps on the other windows. are 2 or 3 of them getting the maxfps? that would leave very little for the others.

i find if i mouse over with mouse-click-passing on (or just click on each wow), it seems to force wow to figure out that it should dial up to maxfps .. then dial down to maxfpsbk when you click off.