Elemental Shaman PVP LOL

[Ellay]

If Damage in PvP in dropped by 30%, I feel we'll be back at a normal state. Healing will also need to be nerfed as well with this change.

[Multibocks]

pssh what do you know about PvP?!


















just kidding!

[entoptic]

Our Burst potential is definitely not an issue, Elemental Shaman solo though... I definitely would not play one if I did not multibox, by far one of the worst class specs that exist in WoW. The synergy it has when multiplied is what makes it a lot of fun.

I don't know about that one. I have only played shamans up until recently and I have never had a hard time in WoW BGs.

The shaman is a very VERY diverse toon to play and you should be able to get outta most anything with the right totems and moves.

I did have some problems with rogues until the TS but playing shamans single player is easy in my mind. The only hard thing is forgetting that there are not 5 of you.

Remember guys when pvping stay around others and in the back. Shamans are not a get up in it kind of class. Stay in the back, BL and CL like a mofo. That Lavaburst is nasty poo as well. You are a support class so support or blast their healers.

[entoptic]

Multibox pvp will never be the same. Blizz was/is determined to not allow healing to be as important in pvp as it was. They wanted pure dps classes to be able to burn down hybrids. Mission accomplished. Although I think they will definitely lower pvp dps, it will never get to where it was before. That is a major multibox nerf as it is now much easier to take out the lead toon.

WoW you guys need to stop QQing so much and learn some new strats.

What seems to be the issue?

[pinotnoir]

Multibox pvp will never be the same. Blizz was/is determined to not allow healing to be as important in pvp as it was. They wanted pure dps classes to be able to burn down hybrids. Mission accomplished. Although I think they will definitely lower pvp dps, it will never get to where it was before. That is a major multibox nerf as it is now much easier to take out the lead toon.

WoW you guys need to stop QQing so much and learn some new strats.

What seems to be the issue?

I'm curious are you 80 and play a elemental build in pvp arena or bg's solo or boxing? I have over 600 res on my best geared toon right now and he dies in no time flat. Right now I dont think there is one class an elemental shaman can beat 1v1 except another shaman. You can stand back all you want but being a shaman in pvp right now is like a bullseye above your head. They know you will die quick and go for the easy kill.

[Multibocks]

Im gonna have to agree with Pinot here, no matter how much you try to hide from people as soon as they see what direction CL/LB/LvB came from you are first on their list to die and it's not because you are a huge threat... it's because you are one of the easier classes to burst down. Now I don't feel we are the worst class in pvp, I believe that belongs to warlocks, but we are probably second. I believe the only reason arenas still include one shaman in comps is Bloodlust and if we didnt have that... well we wouldnt get invited =)

[homerjunior]

I think you just need to wait it out. Blizzard has recognized burst dps is out of control right now, Not many people have stacked resilience yet. The game is clearly no were near finished for example, No fishing daily also the instance's out so far we have been told they were so easy on purpose(Imo to keep sucky players reeled in). Seeing as this is a game and(In PvE) everything is excepted so I do not know how to explain this but I am starting to see its alot more about skill then gear. For example we have 2 mage's in our 25 man exact same gear bar wand/glove(Both still have set bonuse) but one pulls 200-400 more dps every raid. I am to hungover atm to bring blue links but if there is any doubts in my statement I will shove them up later.

Edit: I know nothing about shamans but I enjoy my theorycraft and for the class's I have done research on they have almost elimanated cookie cutter specs. I also know nothing about high end boxing only lvl 27 atm so I am not sure if that changes anything

[5fingersofdoom]

I have to agree unless Shamans are cosy behind a wall of their Teamates,its easy pickings to burn down,as are warlocks.
To add,from what i'm seeing teamplay/style has changed to much more reliance on CC and then AoE and the DMG is so overwhelming,not much survives.
So whereas before teams would roam and their would at least be some exchange of fire/movement retreat and attack, now all there is just roll up,get close enough drop you AoE on your enemy and move on through.
From what I can see Shamans are getting shafted for all the reasons Pinot mentioned,and I can say even on my DK's this is happening,there is just no way to mitigate or escape the damage,players know this in the same way Retripalas got abused,and so were left with mindless AoE and overkill in BG's.
PvP balance is way out of whack,especially on Shamans.

[magwo]

I would say that one thing the shaman class really needs is some base line instant cast heal that can be cast while flying from knockbacks.

Enter "Volatile Healing Totem", works like Fire Nova but with 30 yd range, and heals when it blows up.

Meh? Meh? What you think? Would be sweet for boxing.

[Ellay]

An Instant Offensive spell and an Instant healing spell would be the right ticket, I doubt they would give us anything like that though