Elemental Shaman PVP LOL

[Owltoid]

OMG I'm dying so freaking fast in arena! I used the round robing fire nova's and survived just a little longer! Just in it for the blue PVP gear ATM. Not sure if I will ever be able to win one but who knows. heck, i just want to kill one player.

I killed one guy in 10 3v3 matches. Keep the dream alive, it will happen!

[puppychow]

This is probably a defeatist post but if all you want are points for the week, queue up and don't join. You don't lose any of your buffs/water/etc, and the game counts as a loss. I'm 0-30 since Arena started, only stepped into 7 games and have ~800 points on each of my guys. I'm just going to save up 5k points slowly for the time when you get welfare gear (s6, whatever). I am more of a PVE guy than PVP though so if you do enjoy arena I of course recommend going in and practicing, but if all you want are arena points then you can knock out 10 games in under 15 mins on tuesdays and mondays (other days aren't as great), and you can continue doing other stuff on 4 guys - one guy has to be the arena-queue bitch

[Owltoid]

How much rating do you lose with each loss? Do you need to step into at least 3 games to hit the 30% minimum?

[Dominian]

Its no big secret that arena isnt working well atm and its stated by most of the wow population.

Its well written here:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....73051425&sid=1

A warlock have NO way to escape a druid who use berserker or a hunter that pops BW.

Reason for paladins,dks,rogues and mages is the top classes is due to having immunity and beeing able to deliver high burst...

Resillience will make things better but it certainly wont save you...

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....39774236&sid=1

The guy have 22k hp and 900 resillience, and still dies fast. We all know what happened if you took on a warlock in tbc with soul link and a healer.

[Owltoid]

Heh, the one out of thrity that I killed was a warlock. He got stuck on starfall, treants, and a typhoon. It was mayhem, and I guess he paid the price (and was rewarded with my arena score going down and his up)

[Dominian]

How much rating do you lose with each loss? Do you need to step into at least 3 games to hit the 30% minimum?

The amount you lose vs a team is decided by your own rating and the enemy teams rating.

Im just over the 1500 rating and face a team that have a rating of 1700.

Now if i win i will gain 20 rating.
If i lose i will lose 13 rating.

The numbers arent 100% correct but this actually happened to me last week.

You will lose rating if you got the option to join popped up in oyur screen.

This was done in order to make win trading harder and some teams only fought on arenas in theyr own favour.

Like playing on Blades edge arena was dodged alot by hunters and warlocks due to pets have to run down the ramp when the player jumps off the bridge.

[Owltoid]

Ah, nevermind. I know how the rating works normally, but I thought you were suggesting that by not entering games you still get the loss counted but possibly no rating loss.

Nah, I'd rather take my licks and get a little bit of practice. If nothing else then it helps me to position my guys the best I can for a given arena. Then I get to see how quickly they die.

[pinotnoir]

This is what you do if there is no hopes of doing well in arena.

1. Make a arena team every week. (cost 200g for 5v5)
2. Do 10 games a week. (join and exit or play for practice... whatever)
3. Buy the Blue shoulders first. ( you will prob have 310 arena points after 1 week)
4. New week and new team get another 310 points or so.
5. Buy chest or legs.
6. New week and new team get another 310 points or so.
7. I doubt you can buy a 350 item so grab the gloves.
8. New week and new team get another 310 points or so.
9. Buy the other 350 item, legs or chest.
10. Keep doing new teams and bank your arena points.

You should have 4 of the blue items now.

During all this you should be running wintersgrasp everytime its up. Use the marks to buy the epic helm, boots, and trinket.
Try to buy 1 hateful gear a week to round out your set. Before you know it all the lvl 80 pvp gear will be in your slots. Run heroic vault and normal vault every week.

Now try to do arena seriously with lvl 80 pvp gear.

[TeK23]

Are you playing 3's /w Shamans? If so don't, the comp is to weak. Ele Shamans lack the solo burst needed.

If you go up agaist a DK/Ret/Ret, DK/War/Ret, RPM, etc... they can all solo burst any one of your guys down. Then it's 2v3 and game is over. 3 shamans is a weak comp in 3's.

5's is possible but only by a highly skilled person with no lag. There is some great rotations with 5 Shamans like Fnova totems, Thunderstorm, etc... But... They still run the same issue with DK's being able to DG you into their burst fest.