Quote Originally Posted by 'Talamarr',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160791#pos t160791
(just to derail a little more)

I never understood why people think that raiding is somehow "hard" and justifies extra rewards. I have raided and the only people at a raid that deserves any additional recognition are the Raid Leaders; or more accurate, the glorified Baby Sitters.

Everyone else just shows up, tries not to screw up and just does whatever small task they are instructed to do by the RL or by some strat they read on a website. If 25 people can get that right, the boss is down and you move on. Keeping a guild happy and keeping attendance regular is the real "hard" part about raiding.
They are supposed to be designed to require better gear and be less forgiving. That's just how they're supposed to be designed! I've never, NEVER been in a guild which cleared all the raid content in the game when it was new, so to say that it's not more difficult is kind of silly. I was in a Naxx guild for 60 content back in the day and I did Black Temple when it was still sort of new, and I had a tough time. On the other hand, I cleared every heroic no problem with the same people who I was doing 25 man raids with. It's really harder man, whether it's due to logistics, guild politics, scheduling nightmares, high DPS, whatever. It's not ALL hard, but when you try to do it when it's new, goddamn it's way tougher than a 5 man heroic. I'd like to also point out that some bosses, like Muru, were designed so that only people in the best possible gear with the best possible execution could do it, which you can't ever say about a 5 man boss.