Emblems of Heroism

[algol]

No, I'm saying you make no sense and are being at least a bit rude. Sorry if I was a little obscure about that.

[Multibocks]

No, I'm saying you make no sense and are being at least a bit rude. Sorry if I was a little obscure about that.

actually I believe he was being a dick, but you said it nicer =)

How does asking for ONE ITEM with the cost of 150 badges+"free epix"? I mean jesus christ man, thats A LOT of farming heroics where as a raider can show up to a few raids and get the item. Let's see... a few hours investment for one T8 item or 100+hours, which would you pick? The reason I don't raid for T8 is I can't play during primetime. My GF just won't allow me to raid. Those raiders you are soooo concerned about me stepping on their toes will already have moved on to T9 before I can get full T8. It's so unfair, I know. Non-raiders should never ever be within one tier of raiders.

[Lyonheart]

there is no T8 btw.. its 10man=T7 and 25man=T7.5

[mmcookies]

save up those emblems for the future

[Aradar]

remember when tbc first came out? people was saying the same things like why are the badge gear not any good? then the new isle came out and lo and behold people pugged black temple.
wotlk hasnt been out all that long, wait for the full content before asking for gear to counter it.

Like I stated earlier, I think this will be the case. As people progress and new content gets rolled out, they will add to what is available for the emblems.

there is no T8 btw.. its 10man=T7 and 25man=T7.5

This is correct and personally I don't have a problem with raiders having access to slightly better gear but I can see the other side of the argument. I'm not really picking a side as I could justify either side but at the same time I'm okay with the current setup.

save up those emblems for the future

With the expectation new gear will get released for emblems with time, this is definately my plan. Maybe, more like hopefully, as new arena seasons get introduced and pvp gear gets "rolled down" they will do the same with tier gear.

[homerjunior]

No one pugged BT until post 3.0

[OzPhoenix]

Funnily enough, I do actually have a problem with "Raiders" (and that's an overly broad term) having access to top-end gear exclusive to 25-player raids.

Equal effort should gain equal reward. Now I'm certainly not suggesting that 1 run of a 5 player Heroic is equivalent to 1 run of a 25-player raid, as a former raider myself I know it's not and it's not by a lonnnngggg way. There should however be a point at which the ultimate gear is available via multiple methods. I know that won't ever be the case, but it doesn't change what I think.

[Multibocks]

there is no T8 btw.. its 10man=T7 and 25man=T7.5

Jesus, is it that hard to understand I meant "the next level of equipment"? T7.5, T8, T13, whatever.

[genocyde]

This will sound horribly rude but:
WoW=Progression based
Success=geared for encounter
Geared for encounter=have gear from previous tier
Getting raid quality epics != doing tier before raid quality epics

Ya it would be nice if they were as dumb with PvE gear as they are PvP gear, or for that matter logical/consistent with how they do gear - Getting Hateful from a 10 man raid boss that can be done in 2 min with a pug of green gear quality, but they aren't.

Also remember, Sun Well patch badge loot was not meant to be the standard; It was meant to blow Pug's through all the old content so they could see all of blizzards hard work and the value of their $39.99 | $15/mo.

[Kaynin]

The only annoying thing I find with emblem rewards currently is that the +hit amulet has spirit (uselesssssss to me!), and the mp5 one has crit, but I rather have hit and mp5!

Actually, most items with +hit seems to consist out of Sta, Int, Spirit and Hit rating. What is up with that!? Only good for warlocks. Almost no hit rating on gear that's suitable for shammies, bar T7 pieces. :<