My new set up - building for aoe

[Turenn]

Sam don't forget that mobs that are killed by totems only, don't yield any experience. So you still have to do at least some damage to all of the mobs then drop the totems.

And if you look at this from a logical point of view I'm sure you will see that leveling up 5 teams of 5 will get you to 80 faster then doing them all at once. And while you are in the progress of rerolling monster style. Add a few more classes. 5 Shammies, 5 Druids, 5 hunters, and 5 mages/locks, and 1 Main tank, 1 Off tank/healer, 3 more healers, will benefit you alot more than 25 shammies. And you'll still own world pvp.

And wha't with the 26th account?

You say you are the best, now prove it. Break 25 man Naxx alone and I'll never doubt you again.

[algol]

Tur, I think that's what the consecrate was for.

[Littleburst]

If he didn't had those screenies i'd say he was one of the most funny trolls ever.

It only gets worse and worse.

Just hire some people to level the chars up for you, would be a lot cheaper and faster anyway.

edit:
For your own good, go try and find a place where you can in your words "lvl up effectively by AoEing" with a few chars, then imagine how long you're waiting for respawns with 26.

[Xzin]

I leveled up with AoE. But only with 5 characters at once and I was in an instance so respawn wasn't an issue.

[Sam DeathWalker]

xcept instead of doing research into what does and what does not work,



And yet while in the therycraft period I was told that I should not spend so much time at it ....


I leveled up with AoE. But only with 5 characters at once and I was in an instance so respawn wasn't an issue.

Well... so purhaps there is a bit of disagreement as to if quests or aoe is better ...


I agree that respawn time is the key to the whole thing. Yet no one knows what respawn time is if 26 are in the vacinity. I know those gnolls in the swap zone sometimes were respawning right on me, and thats killing one at a time, so no one can say there are no instant spawn camps. And few even know if you kill all the mobs in the area if they dont all respawn back at the same time ...


Lets not forget that in EQ I leveled up more then anyone. Im basically 3 days played here, and 290 days played over there ...

Don't forget that Prepared, as excellent as he has done, does not use jamba, keyclone, macaroon or most any addon at all. 3 months ago I didnt know what lua was, yet now I am pretty much able to make macros do as much as they are abel to do. In your opinion is it better to use these tools or just jump in and level up as fast as you can with the default UI? If you think that these tools are better for the long run then you will agree that there is a learning curve and that is what I have been doing these last 90 days. Plus I have stable computers with what, in my opinion, is by far and away the best hardware set up. Everyone else takes whatever computers they have at hand and toss them together, mine are made from the ground up for what I do. Right now I am the only person who can brodcast a single ui to 5 other computers and 25 other characters, log in and ONLY have to move the professions macros from the spell book to the bar. I dont have to load ANY profiles, titanbar shows where I set it on the first UI, everything is just like the original UI, all macros are where they were placed on the first UI. That took me over a week of work to do. But now I can change something, spend about 5-10 mintues to broadcast it (I use copy muppy, macroexpress3 and microsoft word to do it lol), and bang, add in the professions and Im all set to go!

Iv been in the thousand needles zone mostly as of last and Im not seeing a shortage of mobs, I start at one end of those centar things and kill up the southside then come back and kill down the northside, by the time I am done the first mobs have respawned already, and with looting and mining slowing me down there seems no problem.

In my own words the first attempt was a complete disaster ... lets see how the 2nd attempt goes.


Ya and as for that EQ screen shot, apparently someone had enough skill to pull not only the north side of Plane of Nightmare (see the gobs and dead wraits) but managed to get the South side (trees and consorts) ALSO in the same pull. Humm ...

[Bigfish]

Sad thing is I'm putting my 25 man raid together, and Sam will will yet to hit 30 by the time I get them to 60.

[welwyn]

rather than try and change his mind help the man with what he asks. he has shown that he has more money than sense here lol so no point trying to change him.

I agree that respawn time is the key to the whole thing. Yet no one knows what respawn time is if 26 are in the vacinity. I know those gnolls in the swap zone sometimes were respawning right on me, and thats killing one at a time, so no one can say there are no instant spawn camps. And few even know if you kill all the mobs in the area if they dont all respawn back at the same time ...

instant respawns are ingame. you did stumble across one in wetlands with the gnolls level 28 ish iirc? there is also 1 in duskwood above the main town there level 32 ish that respawn instantly if you kill them another will respawn within that area. spread your toons out and just AOE mash the area. i will look into a few others for you (i did actually quest most of my groups up) but i did stumble across them few. i did find that 1-5 was the starting area in NE place there is some little demons that respawn same area when 1 dies. 5-15 its above IF they keep running at you at the old airport ( its impossible to get there unless you have my handy group of 3 warlocks up there) 15-24 i quested 24-31 it was them grolls in wetlands 31-37 it was the duskwood mobs. from 37 onwards it took way to long so i quested. but that should help you out a bit for now. good luck and please post some wow videos of your wow army!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Now thats a helpfull response!

[Ifalna]

I think you are seriously underestimating mob spawn time.

You have to do this out in the open. You can kill your group of mobs, get the exp on 5 chars, great. Then wait. And wait. And wait. Then do it again for 5 more. And wait. And wait.
The spawns in that guide are tiny. Like 10 mobs usually, and they have to be specific melee types to aoe down efficiently..
Level them in groups of 5, then play the "endgame" you are aiming for. It is not going to work any other way, but then again, you are not going to listen and try it yourself regardless.

So best of luck I guess.

[glo]

Now thats a helpfull response!

Not really, all he did was give you hope that what you are trying to do is going to work.

Even if you could setup to kill those mobs as soon as they spawn there are not enough of them to give you a decent xp rate and you still have to run around consecrating to tag. There literally is no spot in the game a group of 26 can get good xp aoe grinding like you are considering. Yes grinding with your setup is braindeadeningly easy/boring but it will take many times longer then walking around doing quests. Either way is going to take a long time but questing is going to be faster and give you money, gear, and rep.