My new set up - building for aoe

[Sam DeathWalker]

Using real life cash to advance myself in WoW? Surely you kid.

Besides those guys are amatures look at the ideas for leveling fast we have just in this one thread. You dont belive that these "powerlevelers" can acctually out level the people on this forum, ligitly?

Man I had to start out begging gold (made like 3 gold begging - Who da Man!). Thats why I have to do professions really.

Well just finished cutting and pasting my new account names into all my programs hopefully everything will work when the servers come back up. Might even test keyclone idea today. Im level 22, any good instance I should try in the contenent mulgore is on? My guys are at Thunder Buff right now. Well unless they still didnt flag the accounts for a name change.

[Rin]

(I don't know too many people here willing to work for less than $20/hr).

Plenty of people work for minimum wage. Just need to find a bunch of low skill workers and say, "Hey, wanna play a computer game for 5$ an hour?" Sure as hell beats flipping burgers.

Edit: Sorry nova, was typing it up when you posted that.

In doing this, you would still have to provide them with computer(s), internet, training (not everyone can multibox), and what are you going to pay them with? cash? hire them as contract workers? provide them with an office space (your house?), supervise them? provide insurance? lol. Or are you going to hire people who you can't even communicate with to level your characters? You've still gotta provide them some sort of facility to do it in.

As I said earlier, the benefits would outweigh the cost, and that's why people "try" to use the aforementioned services (because of cost).

[puppychow]

Hey Prepared, is your team at 80 now? Did you raid any of the ally cities or run Lake Wintergrasp yet? Just curious how that has worked out, since I know raiding cities was one of your original goals. I got the black war bear on my team (just 5) but since then I've never wanted to go into an ally city again, my FPS dropped to < 1 and the lag was terrible. Even lake Wintergrasp is awful on my server most of the time, too many people in the zone makes casting a nightmare If you have any blog or such would love to read how things are going for you. TBH I recently cancelled my wow subs (probably will reactivate 1-2 in january and just dualbox), leveling was really fun but endgame just doesn't seem that fun in WOTLK for me as a multiboxer, its more fun for me solo.

Sam - no one really cares what you did in EQ anymore. Grats on whatever you accomplished there, but we are all talking about WoW here and the fact is that after 3 months you have reached level (22? 26?) whereas Prepared has basically leveled 38 characters to near 80 in nearly the same amount of time and many, many people have leveled 10-20 characters 1-80 in that same time. You really need to stop using as an argument "but in EQ I...", the fact is so far on every measurable stat you are far, far, far, far, far behind every other person. Its NO BIG DEAL, its just a video game, but you aren't winning by any measure anything. The amount of time to go from 70-80 also dwarfs 1-70 for multiboxers, so its only going to get worse, not better.

To be honest what I'd suggest is investigate games coming out in the next year. Theres Stargate and Bioware's new Star Wars MMO (2011? 2012?) You wanna jump ahead of the curve, WoW is what, 4-5 years old now with a massive userbase, if you really want e-fame get into the next big thing. You could try Warhammer, which is 100% all about PVP, but its a lot harder to multibox.

[Bigfish]

Stop talking about power leveling

-Svpernova09

[Fortis]

Don't even joke about it. Its not funny. Don't talk about it here.

-Svpernova09

[Bigfish]

bah, nevermind

[Bigfish]

In doing this, you would still have to provide them with computer(s), internet, training (not everyone can multibox), and what are you going to pay them with? cash? hire them as contract workers? provide them with an office space (your house?), supervise them? provide insurance? lol. Or are you going to hire people who you can't even communicate with to level your characters? You've still gotta provide them some sort of facility to do it in.

Forbiden topic completely unrelated at this point:

What, you think the people running those things don't have overhead costs either? You think people can only speak one language? You think low-skill work provides insurance? Do you even know what a no-skill and/or illegal labor market looks like?

[Rin]

In doing this, you would still have to provide them with computer(s), internet, training (not everyone can multibox), and what are you going to pay them with? cash? hire them as contract workers? provide them with an office space (your house?), supervise them? provide insurance? lol. Or are you going to hire people who you can't even communicate with to level your characters? You've still gotta provide them some sort of facility to do it in.

Forbiden topic completely unrelated at this point:

What, you think the people running those things don't have overhead costs either? You think people can only speak one language? You think low-skill work provides insurance? Do you even know what a no-skill and/or illegal labor market looks like?

What, you think the people running those things don't have overhead costs either?
These companies are NOT based in the US. I'd even argue that the companies that have shells here are sub'd out to other countries. Economics 101: Outsourcing (in the case of leveling characters) = cheaper costs, hence why you see the cheap leveling methods available.

You think people can only speak one language? Did I state that? In my argument, I posed that he wouldn't find workers here (in the US, hence my $20/hr comment) to provide those services without exceeding the value of the services

You think low-skill work provides insurance? McDonalds has a healthcare plan for it's full-time non-salaried employees, as does Wal-Mart for it's fulltime employees. I don't think we can get much more cutthroat in the US low-skilled/low wage legal labor market.

Do you even know what a no-skill and/or illegal labor market looks like? Again, your argument fails on the premises that if Sam wanted to succeed in his leveling by using a service, he would have to do it in house (US based), which means US based leveling, US based workers, US based internet company. Don't forget that we're combating time in this as well, because clearly the point of using a service would be to level as fast as possible. But, since I've only built two corporations, clearly I know nothing about business and labor markets...perhaps you can enlighten me: Where is it that I can find US based workers to work at $5/hr (minimum was higher at last glance), that have computers, don't need insurance, and have the internet available for usage? I mean really, if you have these people available, shoot me a PM, I'd honestly like to talk with you. :thumbup:

[genocyde]

Are we back on that "whose winning the never ending game" thing again? I killed the first boss in heroic slave pens on my lvl 70 hunter back during Season 3. 1 toon 1 heroic boss and I honestly think forming a successful hogger raid of lvl 1-3 chars might be a much harder challenge . I'm gonna take my 5 man team back to heroic slave pens and solo that boss 5 times simultaneously in 5 separate instances at the same time. 5x 70 heroic boss at the same time... come on, I win!

EDIT: on a serious note I think both Prepared and Sam are doing some great things. While I think the constant reminder of Sam's accomplishments in EQ have no place in the WoW thread, and I'm not even remotely impressed by anything EQ, I am secretly hoping Sam and/or Prepared pulls off their own personal raid boss kill in lvl 80 content since it's so easy and might actually lead to some nifty advice/strats/software coming out of them when they actually make it to the beginning of the game (lvl 80).

[genocyde]

Oh, While I'm here. Sam I will suggest you seriously reconsider rolling 26x hunters, or possibly, what I would consider the best available group 1 pally, 4 shaman, 20 hunters, 1 priest.

Consider for a second having a pally tank with pally buffs. 4 shaman for your common totems and heals. 20 hunters just for the fact they are exceptional characters to think of 20 in 1 group. 20x multishot 20x explosive trap 20x PET!!!!! hunters can heal their pet, rez their pet, etc. and 20 core hounds could possibly annoy enough people to make a serious impact on your location.

But in all seriousness this group would be capable of raiding if you ask me. Grab your 26th char as the priest just for priest buffs and a viable sub-in for AOE healing certain bosses.
20 hunters/pets is the most fire and forget damage I can possibly think of. you could /afk with 20 pets on defensive and still be save on a pvp server.

Seriously. I want to see an enemy assault deal with 20x multishot / pet / explosive trap. Do it!