My new set up - building for aoe

[RobinGBrown]

Deleted, this is just silly

[Tynk]

Whose "we" dont you mean you? or is this because you refer to yourself in 3rd person?

Prepared > Sam

Please try to keep this civil, there is no need to try and sling veiled insults.

We do the key broadcastinga bit different also. You broadcast in software to all clients on all computers, as you say.

In this case he is using "we" to refer to himself and the poster he was responding to as they both have different means of multi-casting.

We = "You and I" do things differently
Not the way you read it as "The group of people I am associated with" do things differently from you.

[zanthor]

I mean I can broadcast my UI ... the UI set up itself like titanbars and simple minimap and macaroon, and macros, without loading profiles. Sry if it was unclear.

Now lets say you make a macro for your shaman on one computer can you copy it to all the others or do you ahve to rewirte the macro in game for each shaman. The way I have set up is I can make a change on my main computer (say I want to go from earth shocks to chain lightning at level 32), then broadcast that macro change (by erasing and altering the WTF files/folder) automatacally (well takes 3 programes and about 10 mintues). I guess copy is a better word, well I guess clone would be the correct term, So I can test out different macros kinda fasts.
So I can change a macro on the main computer and clone it to all other characters on all other computers.

Maybe copying the WTF folder works if you are not using macaroon but if you do then it takes a bit more then that.

Copy your UI from one pc to the next would be a better way of saying this... I personally use RDX which has the facilities to BROADCAST your UI changes in game to any other player running RDX. For exmaple if someone wanted my RDX setup all they would have to do is log onto Blackhand, group with me, and I could send it to them. The bigger the package the longer it takes, but I've used this for years both for multiboxing and raiding - in raids it was invaluable to be able to code boss mods on the fly.

No doubt the lighter the client the better, but I can surely suggest that addons Jamba and Macaroon are major major facilitators in game play. How do you know if any of your guys break autofollow? How do you know if one of your guys is under attack? With Jamba you can see the health of everyone and if they are following (well basically) on the main computer. Also with Jamba you can click on a flight path with your main and everyone automatically goes to that point, and a bunch of quest stuffs also. Macroroon makes each key (or click button) a full macro in itself and lets you go over the character limit.

I boxed without Jamba for well over a year before using it, I'll agree it's a great application but far from required. I keep my camera far enough back that I normally see breaks before jamba tells me. As for under attack, I have health bars on screen for them, this would be exacerbated by multiple groups but if a mobs in yoru group, you should be nuking it not chatting with it. Flight points can be handled with mouse broadcasting, etc.

We do the key broadcastinga bit different also. You broadcast in software to all clients on all computers, as you say. I hardware broadcast from one keyboard/mouse to 6 computers then software broadcast to the 5 instances on each compouter. Not sure if that is better or worse actually lol ... Well it is a bit better I can left mouse click on six computers at the same time ... I mean on 6 instances.

Key->Broadcast->Broadcast->Client seems to have a layer of failure built in waiting to happen, but really I can see it having benefits as well. If the software broadcaster dies on one machine you don't lose them all.

All said and done, even Prepared isn't doing anything all that "rocket science" like... he's doing the same thing we all do, to the N'th power. Honestly I'm much more impressed by the mixed class 5 and 10 boxers who succeed at heroics and raids than I am any multiboxer playing X of the same class. Having played pally/priest/priest/mage/mage I realize the logistical nightmare it can be - having played shamam^5, druid^4, lock^4 I can say that they are all trivial to setup and level.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I play multiple classes in EQ (1 war, 1 bard, 1 chanter, 1 shaman, 5 clerics, 13 wizards, 1 ranger, 1 mage), but Shamans just do so much (heal, dps, aoe, raz ... ) that well.

You can't just transfer an addon that uses Ace2 or Ace3 (i.e. macaroon) which has your characters name in the Macaroon.lua files to another computer and expect it to work, unless you load default profiles, which also dosnt work all the time ... You have to change the Macaroon.lua (and arkinventory and Jamba) files themselves ...

Macaroon mess

but if a mobs in yoru group, you should be nuking it not chatting with it

Well you have to konw you are under attack first ...

Key->Broadcast->Broadcast->Client seems to have a layer of failure built in waiting to happen

There are so many possible things that could go wrong its amazing that these games work at all.

[Prepared]

How do you know if any of your guys break autofollow? How do you know if one of your guys is under attack? With Jamba you can see the health of everyone and if they are following (well basically) on the main computer. Also with Jamba you can click on a flight path with your main and everyone automatically goes to that point, and a bunch of quest stuffs also. Macroroon makes each key (or click button) a full macro in itself and lets you go over the character limit.

I can see any of my characters break auto follow by the screen they display as not moving. Just one key to bring them back to following. I have another key to set focus to any of my group leaders so as long as I can set focus, I don't have any issues there. I know any one of my characters is under attack by sound from any computer or by their health going down. My 2 main computers contains the group leaders for all groups so I see the health of all from those two screens.

The Jamba flight path for all to go to the same point sounds nice! Sounds like the other options I don't need but that one would save a lot of time for me

We do the key broadcastinga bit different also. You broadcast in software to all clients on all computers, as you say. I hardware broadcast from one keyboard/mouse to 6 computers then software broadcast to the 5 instances on each compouter. Not sure if that is better or worse actually lol ... Well it is a bit better I can left mouse click on six computers at the same time ... I mean on 6 instances.

Octopus broadcasts to each instance and computer. The mouse doesn't work that well for multiple instance windows on the same computer, but I'm hoping a newer version will fix that.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya there is more then one way to skin a cat ...

[Prepared]

All said and done, even Prepared isn't doing anything all that "rocket science" like... he's doing the same thing we all do, to the N'th power. Honestly I'm much more impressed by the mixed class 5 and 10 boxers who succeed at heroics and raids than I am any multiboxer playing X of the same class. Having played pally/priest/priest/mage/mage I realize the logistical nightmare it can be - having played shamam^5, druid^4, lock^4 I can say that they are all trivial to setup and level.

My view is that we're all doing the same thing with regard to the mechanism we use to multibox. Keep in mind some of us multiboxed every single class and even a small few did that without any keyboard or mouse broadcasting software prior to finding out about this web site. /agree on the multiboxers that can do heroics, raids and good ratings in PvP arenas by themselves. However, having said that, I don't agree with some on here that state the best boxing PvPers have the highest ratings unless those boxing PvPers are doing the arenas by themselves. I.e., some boxers work with other players in the PvP arenas which isn't as impressive as the boxers in the PvP arenas by themselves.

[Prepared]

Right now Im not planing to do alts, the only way I can beat prepared is to have guys stronger then his and thats going to be impossible if I dont focus on just my 1 pal and 25 shaman (I might add 10 more accounts though).

You'd need to add 14 more accounts to surpass me in WoW to have more accounts than I do.

Right now, I'm staying with 38 accounts. They are paid up to April. Next summer, I might not be playing all of them, we'll see.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I agree but for sure it is very smart to have 4 dps and another person healing as then you get the best of both boxing (focus fire) and non boxing (varible response on healer)... very very smart.


Ya I have to have my guys much stongers then your guys to kill stronger mobs then you and 12 more toons is a big edge. We will see. Im haveing problems with just 26, even running through quests with 38 is going to be a nightmare. For now I will stick with 26 and see what occurs. I think you can see that you will have to invest a very very large chunck of your time to get all to 80 and quality gear. Even though its 1/4th of whats needed in EQ its still a TON of time.

[zanthor]

Keep in mind some of us multiboxed every single class and even a small few did that without any keyboard or mouse broadcasting software prior to finding out about this web site.

Maximizer, focus follows mouse, and LOTS of clicking/key thrashing! Most I ever did without software was two melee + healer, which was a real bitch to keep up with a rogue/warrior + priest healer.