Update: How the 5x Boomkins are doing

[Crackjack]

As for the comment saying that I ripped off the tool that is on Mousecloner.com, that is actually my tool. I created a new nickname on the DB site of Mousecloner simply as a way to seperate my personal ramblings versus a unified professional username to handle questions/feature requests/etc related to the Mousecloner software.

Wow, i was actually considering buying this mouseclone but now that you say it is actually your tool i think i pass after viewing 10 pages of what to me look like pure attention seeking bullshit(Sorry but it does)

If for some reason you want to verify it, just check the site, I added a quote about how I love using Mousecloner on my 5x Boomkins as Evilseed/Tim.

So if i create an account on dual-boxing with the name "Thundgot" i can refer to my posts on the eu forums as evidence that i actually AM Thundgot? Sounds reasonable!

I truly hope that people don't actually belive this guy and his so called "tool" that has more secrets than the JFK murder itself.

[Evilseed]

So if i create an account on dual-boxing with the name "Thundgot" i can refer to my posts on the eu forums as evidence that i actually AM Thundgot? Sounds reasonable!

Wow I'm being accused of stealing my own content. It must be some real good software, eh? I think I should be flattered!

I have a growing list of customers who are pleased with the product. Rather than join in with the man-who-had-his-coolaid-altered, why not do some research on facts and substantiate your opinion? It is actually a very slick piece of software.

[Crackjack]

[quote='Evilseed',index.php?page=Thread&postID=1717 32#post171732][quote='Crackjack',index.php?page=Thread&postID=171 721#post171721]
So if i create an account on dual-boxing with the name "Thundgot" i can refer to my posts on the eu forums as evidence that i actually AM Thundgot? Sounds reasonable!

[/quote]Wow I'm being accused of stealing my own content. It must be some real good software, eh? I think I should be flattered!

I have a growing list of customers who are pleased with the product. Rather than join in with the man-who-had-his-coolaid-altered, why not do some research on facts and substantiate your opinion? It is actually a very slick piece of software.[/quote]

I did some research on dual-boxing forums actually and look what i found...

[b][Other][/b] [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=171022&l=1']MouseCloner a very powerfull product if legal.[/url] = Locked

[Other] New software to click mouse (AOE casters rejoice!) = Locked

Notice how your name is mentioned in one of them also? (I do Love How On the Mouseclone site One of the testimonials is from Evilseed :cursing: ) - Gotta love sarcasm eh?

And i guess Rins post speaks for itself?

I'm sorry dude, but I need to call your bluff at this point. You haven't done more than 2 instances with your entire druid team. You have not completed any heroics with your setup (although, you have completed most heroics with ONE of characters). Quit spreading lies.

How do I know?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-a...ck&n=Evilseedc
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-a...ck&n=Evilseedb
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-a...ck&n=Evilseeda
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-a...ck&n=Evilseede

It's hard to doctor your armory profile (read: I checked out your Character Achievement dates). It looks like you run 2 of your druids on most encounters. Not to mention, your arena ratings aren't anything to be bragging about.

Now maybe i'm wrong and you are a totally honest person and everything but i very much doubt that is the case...
Viewing your posts makes me think of a carseller who desperately tries to sell this "awesome godmode imba etc. etc." car...

[Los]

enjoyable reads everytime

[Evilseed]

EDIT: For those who are still curious on if this is in the gray, I have begun building a webpage documenting Blizzard's response to mouse cloning in general per the methods that my application uses.

http://mousecloner.com/blizresponse.php

To the Fursphere moderator: You've asked me directly to provide proof of a Blizzard employee which is why I have done this. I have dedicated a page to this and will constantly be updating it as much as I can with things ranging from GM screenshots to any email or official forum postings as they become available.

Fursphere said:

You keep saying this.... I'd like to see a Blizzard employee confirmation before I believe it.

Keep in mind that a wide variety of claims have been made, and each has been addressed and clarified, however a lot of the clarifications I have made to a lot of wild claims has been moderated out. If anybody else has any questions, please feel free to ask me or email me appsup@mousecloner.com .

[Kicksome]

First off, this is pure speculation on my part...

1) Move mouse to a predetermined x,y position
2) Click mouse

Sure seems like 2 actions

you are doing both with 1 command.

it seems like this isn't mouse cloning (where the mouse movement is copied), it's using a key to launch an automated mouse movement and click task.

Maybe ask the GM something like this exactly:
"Can I have use a program, that when I press a key it makes the mouse move to certain position on the screen and then clicks the mouse button. "

[Evilseed]

First off, this is pure speculation on my part...

1) Move mouse to a predetermined x,y position
2) Click mouse

Sure seems like 2 actions

you are doing both with 1 command.

it seems like this isn't mouse cloning (where the mouse movement is copied), it's using a key to launch an automated mouse movement and click task.

Maybe ask the GM something like this exactly:
"Can I have use a program, that when I press a key it makes the mouse move to certain position on the screen and then clicks the mouse button. "

Hey there,

Actually it is 1 action because you cannot send a click to a WoW window without moving the mouse there But I see where you are going with this, that the issue of semantics and clarity are of utmost importance to you. No harm in this IMO. I've yet another conversations with a GM which eventually will be on the website. I imagine people can raise flags on semantics all the time, however, hopefully the sheer number of uniquely worded questions and GM confirmations will eventually wear down even the most rigid skeptic.

Keep in mind I'm doing my best, I really am. I'd love to say to everybody that I have a solid gold diamond encrusted authentic plaque by Blizzard allowing me free reign, but realistically I am only able to do my best with what I have available. I have a lust for multiboxing, a couple contacts at Blizzard, a good development team, and appreciative users helping me out. My new GM conversations, or one that another person makes who multiboxers, will hopefully have better/different sementics to cover all angles here

[Harem]

So that I understand the difference here...


This differs from Hotkeynet in that hotkeynet mouses your cursor on other windows relative to your mouse position in your main windows and then clicks based on where your main pointer is.

But this software - it just applies a mouse click, at a specific x,y (same everytime) in each window, when you press a key. So it isn't duplicating one windows cursor into other windows, it is simply telling other windows a mouse click occurred and it was at x,y without any actual mouse movement being taken into consideration.


I'm sure I'll be flamed as a noob but...

Seems like Blizzard has iterated (and re-iterated) the position that as long as your are at your machine and a brain cell in your brain fired and YOU do something that caused AN action in the game then it's ok.

The line here seems to be that a keystroke is causing a mouse movement AND a mouse click, and that seems to allow us to skip a step in our actions.

All the petitions I see screenshots of don't seem to impart the nature of the utility (one keypress causes the same x,y mouse click on clients everytime it is pressed, regardless of where our mouse cursor actually is) so that we don't feel comfortable that blizzard is REALLY aware of what this utility is doing.

Seems awesome and I hope it gets cleared. But I think the tactic to clearing it is making it criticly clear to blizzard what exactly the utility is doing.

[Kicksome]

Actually it is 1 action because you cannot send a click to a WoW window without moving the mouse there

Moving the mouse to activate the focus of the window, and moving it to a specific pre-determined coordinate on the screen, then clicking it with a single keypress are two totally different things IMO.

I mean, targeting the ground where you want to AOE is supposed to take some degree of TIME and skill, and this is automating the Aiming and spell execution process if nothing else.

At least it seems that way to me, hopefully I'm wrong.

[Harem]

This thread

is interesting as it pertains to the questions here.