FTL /click infused

[Toned]

Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup. stickies = the awesome.

[suicidesspyder]

Yo i feel so dumb right now lol. I would love to try this out but is there anywhay you can show pics too. I am kinda a pic oriented person i see pics and read the write up i comprehend better then just reading. Plus with ocd i need to make sure everything is perfect. Hence always messing with macros and positioning and getting mad in instances when a macro doesnt work the way i want it to. So any help with screen shots with bartender or macaroon just want to see the layout so i can understand a little better. Thanks for all the help.

[Kaynin]

Pardon me from sounding blunt but..

..compared to the conventional FTL set up what does /click really add?

I've not been following it in great detail, but as I understand this is just a means to be able to change between set ups more easy? Which is easy enough in macaroon where you can do a click or two of your own to load a new profile? :P

[Owltoid]

Pardon me from sounding blunt but..

..compared to the conventional FTL set up what does /click really add?

I've not been following it in great detail, but as I understand this is just a means to be able to change between set ups more easy? Which is easy enough in macaroon where you can do a click or two of your own to load a new profile? :P

With /click you don't need macaroon and you're not really in danger of hitting the 255 limit since the targeting is taken care of in a different macro. It seems that it's a crapshoot if Macaroon will work after every major patch and unless they remove /click then it will likely be stable. Macros are easier to read/write when the targeting is taken out of the equation. I'm sure there are disadvantages to /click, but I've loved it so far.

I think the /click system I use is different than the one in this thread. I just have one "targeting" button that I reference with all my macros. If I need a different targeting scheme, including switching to focus based since the targeting is all separate from the ability itself, I just switch what's in that button.

[Kaynin]

but in terms of execution, both do the same then? :P

So it doesn't really matter. More of a preference choice.

[Malekyth]

Something else I like about Macaroon is being able to have an infinite (or at least very large) number of macros. Blizzard's limit (32?) has seemed too few to me in the past, before switching to Macaroon and forgetting about it. Is there some way to expand the number of macros possible, while using /click to get around the character limit, and thus phase Macaroon out?

[Tynk]

Pardon me from sounding blunt but..

..compared to the conventional FTL set up what does /click really add?

I've not been following it in great detail, but as I understand this is just a means to be able to change between set ups more easy? Which is easy enough in macaroon where you can do a click or two of your own to load a new profile? :P

not a problem, with this /click set up I have I can switch my spells around as much as I want with out actually editing any macro's
With a standard set up, if you want to change anything you have to go in and edit macro's on every character and every button.
I often play all my characters solo in raids (I box to raid), so I have a macro made for spam when my shadowpriest is a slave, I just swap it with the macro mad for soloing when I solo, or I can go to my spell book and just drop a spell onto the button.

That and I have a "template" saved in macaroon, so if I make a new character I can just load that template, drop the spells onto the bars and go. There is no digging through, modifying 30 macro's to get set up again.
If I swap characters in and out, all I have to do is drag the /assist macro to the correct spot and the character is changed, instead of once again, changing the hard code name in every single targeting macro.
The main thing this does is separate out the individual functions within an FTL setup so you only have to change the parts that change instead of modifying the whole thing.

consider it like object oriented programing, you have the main program that can call a single function many times through out it's run, instead of copying the same lines of code everywhere you need it, you just reference back to a single function thus reducing the total amount of code, and the amount of work needed when you change something in that function.


As far as pictures go, I actually have a spread sheet made with a direct representation of my macaroon bars set up. I am at work now so can not do it, but will upload it when I get home tonight so you can take a look. I will also try and grab a screen shot of how I have it set up on my UI.

[Kaynin]

Just wanted to be sure if it also had positive practical functionality in terms of executing that a standard FTL wouldn't have. :P

I currently have standard FTL integrated with vehicle boxing myself, wouldn't know how to do that with click so I'm sticking to my current set up though.

[Tynk]

Just wanted to be sure if it also had positive practical functionality in terms of executing that a standard FTL wouldn't have. :P

I currently have standard FTL integrated with vehicle boxing myself, wouldn't know how to do that with click so I'm sticking to my current set up though. :p

Not trying to talk you into changing, just sharing what I have done. To answer your question, no. Once you are set up there is no functional difference. This one simple allows change to be a simpler process.

Here is the spreadsheet I used to map everything out, I made it a little easier to read and added in some notes.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...zfO2jWE6nPJGCw

[Noah]

I am new to multi boxing, and have quickly jumped from 2 boxing to 5 boxing in a PvE environment. The Attraction of multiboxing came when real life prevented highend raiding, and sporadic instancing lost its attraction. Now I have a 5 man team that can go and die at the drop of the hat.

I use 2 pc's and keycone. I started out using the Leaderless, Targetless, Focus based Hydra set out in the new multiboxer section. Combined with Jamba and Macaroon it works very well.
My classes of choice so far were 1 preist and 3 mages all leveled to 20, followed by my current team Paladin Preist and 3 mages, all of whom are 15-16.
The big issue is the lack of flexibility having focus tied up to head the hydra. I had read up on the FTL setup and it seemed the way to go - however I am not confident In setting up each char and all the individual macros. It appeared as if it would take a log time followed by lots of troubleshooting.

I have followed Tynk's suggestion and it has all gone incredibly smoothly.

With regard to the keymaping - I mapped 12 buttons using the FTL key combinations, but simplified it as folows ( no referrencing spells)

Make 1 large template using hidden keys UIOP[]JKL;'# as the 12 hidden keys, and w(acct number)b(button )

ctl+sh+U..w1b1
alt+ctrl+U..w2b1
alt+sh+U...w3b1
alt+ctl+sh+U..w4b1
ctr+U..........w5b1

>

>And so on for 12 combinations where the last key hotstring is w5b=

Save it and go to the keyclone folder and 5 copies of the ???.kcl, and rename them respectively to suit your accounts.

Return to the keymap editor and edit each keymap in turn by replacing the the hidden key combination with the number key. 12 pieces of editing per keymap

1.............w1b1
alt+ctrl+U..w2b1
alt+sh+U...w3b1
alt+ctl+sh+U..w4b1
ctr+U..........w5b1

In Wow, I have unbound my focustarget bar, and rebound keys 1- = to the normal bar.

As Tynk's instructions I created 1 bar with 5 buttons, my preference was to set them to action id 101 - 105, and have left the bar vsible and out of the way. The clever part that took me a while, was working out that warcraft macros can be placed on action buttons, whereas Macaroon macros cannot. This may be obvious to others but it took me a while. I created 5 Warcraft macros for assisting and have dragged them to the new bar.

I created a second bar with 12 buttons and bound the keys UIOP{}JKL;'# to it. Each of these buttons was set to a Macaroon Macro.

The Macro is the click script Tynk listed, with /click mod lines changed to actionbar101-105, and the second to last line changed to actionbar1-12

I will still be using Jamba for the party following and all the other nice stuff it does,

PLUS, I now have option of using Focus for other tasks, AND Jamba-Target fortargeting and kill orders.

Over and above that the biggest benefit is the saved Macaroon profile as I am not certain whether the current team will be my favourite, and will crertianly be trying others like the 4-5 shamen route. Whichever option I go with, all I need to do is copy the macaroon profile, create 5 Warcraft assist macros fo rthe assist bar (actionbuttons 101-105), followed by drop and drag spells.

I can also rearrange spells at will on any character without editing any of the background inforamtion.

My next challenge is to utilise the new macro system and Macaroon so that the group works more efficiently and getting around the message "Target not in front of you" which seems to be a win win for monsters and a wipe wipe for me.

Noah

Stormrage
Saurfang - Multiboxing