A different elemental spec (How to break 5k dps in raids)

[Kaynin]

I'll wait for the new patch and elemental fixes myself.

No way I'm speccing some weird hybrid just so I can dps as elemental! :P

With the new elemental changes, the elemental tree becomes more interesting again, imo.

[Niley]

Ill get naxx wws tomorrow, most I did was 4870 on sarth, but usually I was anywhere between 3800-4200, depending how waves went.

edit. This is with 3 drakes up.

[Multibocks]

is that 4870 with this weird spec or traditional ele spec?

[Ellay]

The spec may be weird but your not changing any of your gear for it and the spell rotations are exactly the same.
The only piece your adding is an offhand weapon, besides that your max range is only 30 yards so your slightly closer.

[Kaynin]

True, but no thunderstorm? I couldn't possibly do the heroics I do without that, As well has it proven valuable in multiple 10 man boss encounters. 4x em+ts is a very big AoE!

Plus, I'm raiding with the more casual type of guild and usually 2-3 in the raid that kinda lack and have to be carried, so I am used to utilize more then just pure dps to beat encounters anyhow.

Right now, my dps is enough for all 10 man it seems, I usually top dps in my guild as elemental anyhow. And I expect the shaman changes like, the 17th. I don't think it's worth, at least not for me, to bother speccing and respeccing after every raid (times 3/4).

[Dominian]

True, but no thunderstorm? I couldn't possibly do the heroics I do without that, As well has it proven valuable in multiple 10 man boss encounters. 4x em+ts is a very big AoE!

Plus, I'm raiding with the more casual type of guild and usually 2-3 in the raid that kinda lack and have to be carried, so I am used to utilize more then just pure dps to beat encounters anyhow.

Right now, my dps is enough for all 10 man it seems, I usually top dps in my guild as elemental anyhow. And I expect the shaman changes like, the 17th. I don't think it's worth, at least not for me, to bother speccing and respeccing after every raid (times 3/4).

From what i read in the post they will have to run it on the PTR first and theyr not even up yet..

"These changes will be available in the next minor content update, so keep an eye out for the next PTR push."

Were talking about weeks here if PTR is the case...

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....86800532&sid=1
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....86809806&sid=1

[puppychow]

Yeah I doubt we are going to see any new patch this year, mid Jan probably.

So with 33/28 do you just do lightning bolt spam? Its not worth doing flame shock/lava burst? Do you have to run in ever and do a melee attack to proc anything?

Has anyone found a good rep-based offhand to use? Librarian's cutter or whatever sells for 400g+ on the auction house I'll start farming it in HoL, but I think i'd rather find something cheap and sell any that drop for me. You just need a off-hand weapon with crit/int/str/haste, right? Weapon speed doesn't matter?

[Kaynin]

That's silly, acknowledging elemental needs a polish but not putting the change through before season 5?

I kinda expected the change by then, solely because of this. It's not a big change to make! :P

Still, I'm refusing to give up utility, for higher possible dps that I don't actually need anywhere anyhow. Only Malygos left (done a few tries, we got close to phase three, but phase two was taking too long. :< ), I don't do 25 mans, want to keep it somewhat 'casual'. 10 is enough for me, might eventually pug 25 mans but not yet. Ie. I'll stick with deep elemental, which is and still remains much better all round. As opposed to a spec focused around one, very boring, cast sequence.

[Ellay]

This is the spec I will be trying out today.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hEh0qzzLxZ0xgcoxzAckhbo (extra note on this spec, 1 shaman will need strength of earth spec, another will need windfury totem spec)
I may need the chance to hit, I'm going to try it out on test dummies and see the difference. The 4th Shaman will incorporate the normal Elemental build to have Elemental Oath and Totem of Wrath.

This method gives 4 charges on Stormstrike making it possibly worthwhile to use a cooldown on and Shamanistic rage because I read they have mana issues.

[Dominian]

This is the spec I will be trying out today.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hEh0qzzLxZ0xgcoxzAckhbo
I may need the chance to hit, I'm going to try it out on test dummies and see the difference. The 4th Shaman will incorporate the normal Elemental build to have Elemental Oath and Totem of Wrath.

This method gives 4 charges on Stormstrike making it possibly worthwhile to use a cooldown on and Shamanistic rage because I read they have mana issues.

According to that post using stormstrike will only lower the dps rather then just spamming LB's.

this is his rotation:

rotation is the normal elemental one:
FS + LvB + LB + LB + LB + CL + LvB -> repeat

I will certainly go for the hit but remember that stormstrike charges can only be used by you and not other nature casters.