Strand of the Ancients

[merujo]

Dunno how many of u guys already got the opportunity to join Strand of the Ancients, but i haven't seen any thread about it, and i think it's worth some discussion and exchange of ideas.

Overall i like the concept. It's like a mix between Call of Duty and WoW, only that, we dont have snipers :P

On to the problems i've faced:

Attack:
Beggining of the BG, and im split between boats, and what happens the most is, 3 chars on the same boat as my main, 2 other chars on another boat. It's not that i am lazy, but, by the time im reaching the other boat to grab the remaining chars, theres already rushing horde near it. So i end up trying to kill them quickly to proceed asap, and the problem here is the time im waisting just to regroup my team, because as u may know, SotA is based on a timer, and who manages to reach the final gate faster, wins. In all SotA's i've been, i didnt managed to put my group all in the same boat. Perhaps if u wait until the last 10 seconds to join, ull put all chars on the same spot? Something to test out.

Mid BG, i find myself pushing the horde back, and trying to blast their cannons. It's a fail whenever i try to reach a gate and have to fight in close combat, cause almost every class has now some sort of OP AoE that smashes my group in seconds, along with the cannons that deal ~3500 per bomb. Spreading out is out of question, i dont have time for that, and i just cant see it happening without dying first. And Fast.

End BG, and if my team had enough brains to pick vehicles to blast the doors, this is where a multiboxer can make the difference, by luring the enemy to a spot, opening the way for ur team and vehicles to get in to the last gate. I managed to do it, and the secret was...chain heal like mad. Thunderstorm and Chain Heal...or ur dead. I mean, what good is the lava burst on melees that bunny hop all around u ? Melees with anti spell defenses, melees that ignore thunderstorm and that get healed like never before.
Fighting a DK with one or two healbots, in a situation where u can reach his healers is frustrating. U may say it can happen with all classes that get healbots behind them, but i'l have to disagree, cause DK atm, from my PoV, have some unique dmg reduction spells that no other class has, making them almost impossible to kill with good healer behind. Ofc i always go for the healer, but if i get kited, and all my other followers get CC between, i have to addapt and manage to take out a DPS'r.

Defense:

Start: I always rush one boat, and force the opposing team to either wipe or to jump of the boat. Its such a beautiful sight, watching 5 or more players struggling to be alive and loosing time just to avoid me :P
Problem is, the gate where i cant be, will be completly destroyed because:
a) noobs come following me
b) noobs cant shoot cannons
c) noobs can't open the fukin map for once, and see where they are needed
Because SotA is such a different BG, i dunno, maybe ppl are just not used to it, but yesterday i went to one side rushing their attack, and within one minute our last gate was destroyed. Like in every single BG's, Alliance always had this focus problem, better, this "i don't give a fu**" problem. Ppl dont know how to play, and thats it. In the end the multiboxer always end being the problem, and the reason why we lost. There's 15 chars there. 1/3 manages to control half the oposing team. The other 2/3 cant manage the other half, and the problem is the guy who is giving everything to win :P Has been like this since the beggining.

Mid BG it's me trying to fall back and defend the last gate, where, 80% of times, i fail, cause the oposing team has like 2 tanks destroying our gates WITHOUT ANYONE doing nothing besides trying to kill the other players by foot.

End BG it's just the end of a FAILROUND and i smash my head on the keyboard asking myself how retarded can people be. I mean, cant ppl think for a second and know what to do? ofc not.

The BG is great, but really not a boxing paradise. Sometimes i reach the end of the BG with my brain completly messed up, and thank god it doesnt takes more than 20 minutes or so.


experiences, tips, can u guys share anything ?

[xtobbenx]

I have only played it on my solo DK so far. And i must say that you have found alot of intresting issues reguarding this BG. I was thinking that haveing a boxer would be nice if it was working in the optimal way. But all the problems you now describe is kinda riping my idea apart.

But in a perfect battle with a boxer i whould guess it would work somthing like this.

Attack:

The non boxers directly grap tanks and bombs and start pushing.
The boxer keep strand clear of any hords runing around trying to kill tanks.

When the gates get destroy. We would mount and rush in and kill all inside and camp the GY flag, While the non boxers continue geting more tanks and pushing next gates..

So.. as a boxer i think we will have to chill back alittle.. Try to get our team regruped and stay out of range of the cannons untill the wall is breaged.

Defence:

Soloers, get cannons. PEW PEW.

Boxer run down on beach and w8 for the boat to come in.. Kill all on it.. then run over to the other boat where their attack will have started... you then come up in their back so you should be able to nuke down the tanks kind afast.

From that point on i dont have any ideas on how it would work reguarding the aoeing etc from tanks and players vs us. But atleast try to run in on the tanks backs and nuke them down.

And in the end if they destroy all the walls untill the final gate. Then basicly camp that area. Normaly they will use less tanks and more bombs at this time and as a boxer we should be able to shot down any inc players before they manage to lay a bomb down. If any tanks should arrive.. then i guess we would have to directly mount up and run in a half circle and get in on its side and nuke it down... Gate will take some damage from the tank i assume...

But keep posting on it. My team is on 73 atm and i'm having a hard and slow time lvling up.. But i thought i would stop at 79 and make me 100 Strand marks. So i can awoid it on 80 unless i want to play it for fun.

[Method]

Defense is where boxers should shine in SOTA. Just focus on downing vehicles while defending yourself and letting your noobmates kill the other players. You should do just fine as long as you arent the only one there.

[entoptic]

Oh man the HATE in SoTA.

As a boxer I get hate all the time in this BG. People are just bitter I swear!

Usually everyone finally shuts up when they see me one shot a tank.

Offense
I am on Turrets. I kill them all which makes the tanks life that much easier. I stay away from small fights and go straight for the Flag once the gates are destroyed.

Defense
I am usually in a turret defending not only the gate but the GY next to the gate. I have my main in the turret while the alts sit next to the turret pew pewing anyone that gets near. I always fall back and mainly just D the flags and kill tanks. I avoid all fights that do not have tanks.

Btw this is all done with lvl 74s.

[pinotnoir]

This bg is the most ANTI boxer bg in the game. Joining it will only make you frustrated. After spending some time in there I have come to the conclusion pvp is going to end for me soon.

[entoptic]

Oh man the HATE in SoTA.

As a boxer I get hate all the time in this BG. People are just bitter I swear!

Usually everyone finally shuts up when they see me one shot a tank.

Offense
I am on Turrets. I kill them all which makes the tanks life that much easier. I stay away from small fights and go straight for the Flag once the gates are destroyed.

Defense
I am usually in a turret defending not only the gate but the GY next to the gate. I have my main in the turret while the alts sit next to the turret pew pewing anyone that gets near. I always fall back and mainly just D the flags and kill tanks. I avoid all fights that do not have tanks.

Btw this is all done with lvl 74s.

OMG now with 5 lavabursts I own. Add the thuner capacitator and i double own. I love SoTa.

[merujo]

This bg is the most ANTI boxer bg in the game. Joining it will only make you frustrated. After spending some time in there I have come to the conclusion pvp is going to end for me soon.

it's not that bad tbh. now Wintergrasp on the other hand, imo, is much more anti boxer.

the big problem for us, multiboxers, is the hability of almost every class AOE us to death. And if they cant do that, they get a vehicle or a cannon to do the job lol
it's really sad to aknowledge that AV will be forever ur only great pvp spot

buff our magma totem to do 1k dmg per tick and i'll be a happy panda

[pinotnoir]

Ok I figured out a trick that will help you kill the cannons. What you do is zig zag your way up to the wall. Hug the wall on the side of one cannon. This will give you los to kill one. Then move to the other side to kill the other. It seems to be working ok.

Defending the base I have found standing guard at the final wall is pretty good. If you can take out the vehicles alliance have to drive all the way back up. By that time you should respawn if you die. Just pray your at the same graveyard. If your not at the same grave yard start auto running your lost toons towards your main group.