my first three heroics, and some more

[kadaan]

Insanity in Ahn'kahet seems like it would pretty difficult on heroic. It was pretty darn difficult even doing it normally playing only my Druid. If you had 5 shaman you could probably pop your fire elemental and do the strat ss2 mentioned. They definitely have a LOT more hp on heroic than normal though.

I want to see a video of someone boxing the Occulus ;).

[Aradar]

Nice.....very nice indeed.

I am running the same setup Pally, 3 Shamans and a druid. I have all the DPS set for DPS builds but when I start to raid I am going to change someone over to healing. I had thought about the druid but I see you went with a resto sham ... I will have to look into the pros and cons.

I thought about a resto druid too
You can't tell by looking at any of my pictures, but my druid can do around 400-500 dps more than my shamans while still giving the shamans earth and moon, plus with moonkin aura you can skip elemental oath and get something better. But then resto druids have a 41 point "press button, heal everyone in group" talent which has it's uses..

Earth and Moon is nice. Moonkin aura does not stack with Totem of Wrath though right? If so I can free up another air totem....

I need to find updated information on what stacks and does not stack between totem, and spells/talents.

Unless the original distinctions changed, they do stack. One is a spell crit debuff and one is an all attacks crit debuff. However, it will not stack with Elemental Oath so be sure you don't spec for that. In looking at the list, I also see Heart of the Crusader (judgements increase crits taken) doesn't stack with Totem of Wrath so make sure you pally/shaman combos don't get both.

[Fuzzyboy]

Very nice :-D

How do you handle the clones in the herald fight? I've been wrecking my brain on that one - is the only difference compared to normal that they have more hitpoints or do they hit harder as well? I beat it on normal by simple turning off DNP, press tab and use a dps char to run around and kill clones, but I guess they hit too hard to do that on heroic?

you can line-of-sight the attack that creates the clones and either get 0 clones or less than the normal amount(still easier)
if someone dies during the clone fight you can ankh/soulstone and that character will be out of combat until the clones are killed

Very nice, thanks for the tip. How do you usually pull off the LoS thing? Do you pull the boss back up or?

[ss2]

Very nice :-D

How do you handle the clones in the herald fight? I've been wrecking my brain on that one - is the only difference compared to normal that they have more hitpoints or do they hit harder as well? I beat it on normal by simple turning off DNP, press tab and use a dps char to run around and kill clones, but I guess they hit too hard to do that on heroic?

you can line-of-sight the attack that creates the clones and either get 0 clones or less than the normal amount(still easier)
if someone dies during the clone fight you can ankh/soulstone and that character will be out of combat until the clones are killed

Very nice, thanks for the tip. How do you usually pull off the LoS thing? Do you pull the boss back up or?

I tank him near a pillar and make my group strafe behind it when he's casting so only my paladin has a clone made

[Xorn]

Sounds pretty much like exploiting to me ... :>

[Fuzzyboy]

Sounds pretty much like exploiting to me ... :>

It's probably somewhere in between the SH final encounter (not exploit) and the SV encounter (pillaring) - probably a grey area I'm guessing?

[Xorn]

This is probably not the best place to discuss it BUT the fight is meant to be fought with each character and the parties clones and since you do avoid the clones from appearing for 4/5 characters which is most likely NOT intended and so I would say it is exploiting. At least that is what I understood from this "method".

[ss2]

Did you know that firemaw was supposed to be fought in line of sight of the raid while the entire raid wore fire resist gear? Do you know anyone that killed him this way, or did half your raid hide out of line of sight?

until it gets changed or a blizzard poster says something along the lines of "this is an exploit, you're suppose to be in line of sight of him" I'm going to stick with "oh well"

[Xorn]

Well I didn't know that but I DO KNOW that exploiting will be handled in the manner of banning first, asking questions later (and we all know, blizzard wont ask questions at all) - whether they are temporary or permanent. Just wanted to add this point before anybody comes and QQ about the ban he might have gotten.

[Kicksome]

No way in hell anyone is going to get banned for that. There's no list from blizzard on the official way to fight a boss. As far as I see it, LOS is a SMART way to fight a boss, not nearly an exploit.
"banned for LOSing a boss when he does a special ability" - no way that will happen.