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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153124#po st153124
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Kromtor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153122#post 153122
    i just make my password my zip code and then never let anyone know my address. that way i know both me and my account are always safe.
    The could be brute force hacked in like 20 seconds.
    Standard part of a normal brute force list is postal codes in normal and zip+4 formats. You'd never believe how common it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Sarduci',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153134#post 153134
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153124#po st153124

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Kromtor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153122#post 153122
    i just make my password my zip code and then never let anyone know my address. that way i know both me and my account are always safe.
    The could be brute force hacked in like 20 seconds.
    Standard part of a normal brute force list is postal codes in normal and zip+4 formats. You'd never believe how common it is.
    not to mention the fact that it's pretty easy to get someone's ip address, and from there narrow down the location. i'd change my password if i were you kromtor
    70|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|80
    70|xXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxX|80!!!
    Allai, Alaii, Allei
    , Aleii, Aliee
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    I wanted one and they were sold out. I checked every day for a few months. I was thinking of buying 10 of them when they became available. Then keep one and sell the rest when they ran out of stock again. I’d figure history would repeat, and we would go a few months until they got them back in stock. That’s when I’d sell them. I was thinking eBay with a price of $50-100. Why? Because that’s what I would have paid for one back when I was checking that page every single day.

    I didn’t do that though. I bought 3 and only use one. The other 2 are for back up. I figure the battery would go, and I’d be prepared. Using it is easy. It’s just habit now. So there’s no hassle. I do think about it all the time. I feel my accounts are so much safer now because of it.

    I know some people will say it’s not worth it. I remember people taking one side or the other. All I can say is two things;
    #1 its $6.50.
    #2 I’ll tell you my password if you tell me yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'ELBA',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153142#post153 142
    I figure the battery would go, and I’d be prepared.
    YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!
    imo
    70|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|80
    70|xXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxX|80!!!
    Allai, Alaii, Allei
    , Aleii, Aliee
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    well, add one more to the list. I LOVE mine, as it has been said, for $7 there is no excuse to not get one. $7 to protect 5 accounts, even if you only have one account, and a level 1 noob on it. that $7 insurance plan could save you $19.99 for the price of a battle chest.
    So lets see.
    Vanilla wow $25 x5 = $100
    Burning Crusade, 1 colelctors, 4 normal, $170
    Wrath, 1 collectors, 4 normal, $230
    rough guess of about 3 years worth of monthly payments = $576
    that's a $7 insurance policy that is almost 99% protection over $1076
    no brainer

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    I got some questions about this. Largely because people are using fear as a reason to buy one, and saying things like "it's a no brainer". Both of which raise red flags to me - even on a $7 purchase.

    First off, assuming your machine is not infected with keyloggers, how can anyone hack your account if they don't even know your account name? Without some amazing social engineering, or breaking into your machine, how is anyone going to even know where to start hacking your account?

    Assuming someone HAS your account name... You failed and now your password can be hacked. Perhaps it's time to get one of these devices.


    The problem seems to be people having your account name to begin with. So don't go to any non-trusted WoW or MMO sites and play on a Mac if you have problems with keyloggers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Soundeyes',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153148#po st153148
    The problem seems to be people having your account name to begin with. So don't go to any non-trusted WoW or MMO sites and play on a Mac if you have problems with keyloggers
    I think a authenticator is cheaper than a mac

    ... I could be wrong, though. I don't own a mac.



    Macs aren't hack-proof. Nothing is hack-proof. Not even *gasp* authenticators, which TECHNICALLY could be reverse engineered. Macs just are a smaller target population than Windows. If it were the other way around, the few windows users would be supposedly "hack free" and all viruses would be developed for Macs.

    As for the safety of the authenticator, it's just another line of defense that should be utilized along with proper virus protections like antivirus, firewalls, smart users who don't throw their accountname/password into phishing sites, users who use strongly typed passwords/SQA's/account names (capitals other than the first letter, numericals, symbols, non-dictionary words)...

    The more hoops to jump through, the less "worth it" it is for those hackers to make a profit off of your account -- cost (time) vs gain. Make it more costly for hackers to get into your account, the less likely they are going to make a buck, which means they're less likely to want to bother.
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    Authenticator is a nice idea, if I didn't already use a Logitech G15 and a login macro I would invest in one myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Sarduci',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153132#post 153132
    Quote Originally Posted by 'bigp3rm',index.php?page=Thread&postID=153115#post 153115
    Just curious why you picked up three? I thought I read in the FAQ that one will work for multiple accounts.
    Two to use so if one breaks I'm not at the mercy of the billing department. One extra because my cat will find and hide one or two of them at some later date.
    Ok, this is amusing as shit.

    First, you can only associate one authenticator with an account.
    Second, each authenticator will give a unique number every 60 seconds or so...
    Third, having one authenticator associated with the accounts means that when you lose one or it dies, you are still at the mercy of teh billing department.
    Fourth, see above... cats, loss, etc...

    All said and done, you have three and the only thing it's going to save you is a window of time without having an authenticator on the account if you lose one because once you manage to get Blizz to remove the old one, you can instantly add a new one instead of reordering...
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    Only stupid people who do stupid things, or allow stupid people to do stupid things on their computer should ever really need one, but it does add a level of comfort.

    If someone got hacked they did one of the following:

    1. Gave out thier info to a "Friend".

    2. Browsed some stupid porn or warez site, or downloaded stuff that any idiot should know not to do.

    3. Picked a simple password/accountname setup.

    Having said that, I have one for my 5 accounts, & love it. I have my occasional moments of stupidity & this adds a little extra security.
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