Gold, Flying mounts, Cold weather flying conundrum:

[Trammel]

So apparently you need a flying mount (or at minimum cold weather flying) to do much of anything in Icecrown/Storm Peaks.

This is bad news bear for those of us that didn't really farm any gold (or stayed at 69 to collect rest...).

My current situation is:

Druid
Shaman
Shaman
Shaman
Shaman

Where the druid has all of the flying training (6800) and the shamans basically have nothing.

It was my intention to level this group to 80, and then level up another group and ultimately work into some sort of a mixed group using dailies and such to fund the second group.

I also kind of planned of doing some pvp with this group in the mean time, but without flying mounts it seems like I can't do the son's of hodir quests for the shoulder inscriptions, or possibly some of the later instances, or possibly wintergrasp effectively.

Now I'm kind of stuck with what I want to do, I can either go grind out another 3-4k gold (and probably hit 79 in the process?) and that would get me one shaman flying ready and I could simply 2-box to 80.

Does anybody else have some suggestions for me, or want to state their experiences with this restriction?

[nomenquis]

So apparently you need a flying mount (or at minimum cold weather flying) to do much of anything in Icecrown/Storm Peaks.

This is bad news bear for those of us that didn't really farm any gold (or stayed at 69 to collect rest...).

My current situation is:

Druid
Shaman
Shaman
Shaman
Shaman

Where the druid has all of the flying training (6800) and the shamans basically have nothing.

It was my intention to level this group to 80, and then level up another group and ultimately work into some sort of a mixed group using dailies and such to fund the second group.

I also kind of planned of doing some pvp with this group in the mean time, but without flying mounts it seems like I can't do the son's of hodir quests for the shoulder inscriptions, or possibly some of the later instances, or possibly wintergrasp effectively.

Now I'm kind of stuck with what I want to do, I can either go grind out another 3-4k gold (and probably hit 79 in the process?) and that would get me one shaman flying ready and I could simply 2-box to 80.

Does anybody else have some suggestions for me, or want to state their experiences with this restriction?

I think I've read somewhere that in the beta you were able to obtain a 0 speed increase (aka walking speed) flying mount if you had no flying skill to reach these areas.
Perhaps it's still available in the live version.

edit:
here you go:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44221

There is a horde and an aliance version available.

kind regards

[Trammel]

You are a lifesaver, you get it from "Honest Max" in K3.

[Trammel]

Also, don't learn cold weather flying as it will prevent you from getting a wellfare mount, even if you don't have wellfare mount training (800g) or the wellfare mount (100g)

[wizofid]

if you think that is bad, my whole team has regular level 30 mounts only.

So question... do you need the fast flying mount to get the cold weather flying mount? so... 700 + 1000 + 5000 + 1000 per person to fly in northrend? or can you drop that 5000 one out of the equation?

[nomenquis]

if you think that is bad, my whole team has regular level 30 mounts only.

So question... do you need the fast flying mount to get the cold weather flying mount? so... 700 + 1000 + 5000 + 1000 per person to fly in northrend? or can you drop that 5000 one out of the equation?

You don't need to buy the 5k skill.
Cold weather flying and riding skill are independent of each other i think.

[Trammel]

Uh so, complication with loaner mounts:

They can't follow regular mounts or other loaner mounts.

They can be followed by regular mounts, so you could, in theory, get away with one of them with a minimum amount of hassle (although time constraints).

They also appear to be 60% mounts.

[Caspian]

In beta you could not fly in Wintergrasp on your normal flying mounts, only on the special PvP mounts you get in the zone. I do not know if this is still the case since I am slacking on my leveling.

[Chaosomega]

What i dont currently understand is the new changes and how they relate to things in BC.

Welfare mounts, 0% speed increase, free without having to buy any skill or mount so far.
Then 800g for the first training for basic flying? ??% speed increase
Then does the 1000g cold weather flying machine allow you to use epic riding skill in northrend only? (+280% northrend only)
1000g basic training skill in shadowmoon valley which allows you to ride 60% in bc,
the 5000g that allows you to ride fast in bc (280%)

BUT if you have the 5000g and the 1000g CWFM then you can go fast... everywhere?

Last question, what speed are land mammoths during beta the 3 seater w/ vendor were suppose to run at 280% land so that you could possibly use them in azeroth, did they completely scrap this idea?

[moosejaw]

To the OP, This is why I didn't upgrade my accounts yet. I am doing my dailies at 70 to get my epic flier training (5k) and bank some gold for professions and cold weather training. I know I will be behind other people who are already 80 but I am not racing anyone but myself. I can't wait to go to NorthRend but I want my trip to be as smooth as possible.