WotLK heroics and tactics compilation thread

[Taliesin]

Its a lot easier to just position your 4 slaves in the corner than try to position them at 36 yards and keep them in range of firing but out of range of leap. Sure its not that hard but putting them in the corner takes seconds and prevents him from ever getting behind them, and as long as you know how to use taunt on your tank your slaves will never get hit with spit.

IMO its just easier/faster (faster for me is by far the key word as I was able to run all of gundrak in less than 20 minutes before I stopped multiboxing) to bundle up in the corner.

Either method is valid, it's up to the player to decide what works best for them. Mine requires that all your alts be ranged, so it's not going to work for everyone to begin with, where yours would work. For me, my method is easier than positioning in the corner because I simply park my guys in the middle of the room and pull Eck only a short distance right up the stairs and focus all my attention on just tearing him down as fast as I can. The Eck spit isn't going to kill me, my priest can keep up with him. I just use this method because it requires virtually no special setup, just distance. As a bonus to your method, you can also get the Eck Residue achievement, but you only need to do that once. "Easier" is a relative term.

[Greythan]

Sorry Hachoo, but its not just as easy. You've been invaluable in your help, but I think your over-gearedness might cloud your opinion on this one. I have done Eck a dozen times with the corner method. My last three have been with Tal's advice.

The cornering method requires re-establishment of aggro and mob positioning as I've had several situations where I had to go to emergency AE heal spam to save the encounter. Perhaps my tactics for the corner weren't perfect, but...

Tal's method makes this the simplest of tank-n-spank. Again, if your DPS is all ranged stand at max and hammer away. Its ridiculously easy.

[Gares]

I used the corner method for Eck right from the start (Straight to Heroics at 80) and its the best method I can think of. The worst case scenario if he does leap is that the spit might hit only one of the slaves for like 1-2 seconds. You just taunt and heal and keep DPS up.

[Greythan]

I was the same Gares, until I tried Tal's method.

Probably killed Eck 10 times now using the 30+y range method and there isn't an easier boss I do. It is, literally, a heal-tank-mash-DPS fight now with NO regard to any boss behavior. The corner method, while effective, simply requires more potential activity and has a HIGHER chance for toon loss/wipe.

Try it (if you have all ranged DPS). Its really nifty.

[ghonosyph and the moocrew]

been searching for a few, and haven't seemed to find any melee boxing strats... i tried gundrak the other day with my feral druid tank,3dk, +healer friend helpin out(** my druid is in mostly 10 man epics, and my dks are 25 man geared with a solid frost dps spec**).... we downed everything pretty much no problem but the last boss and with his whirlwind, charges, impales was just too hard to kill

For bosses that whirlwind i usually just let my dks dps from ranged against a wall(like i do for heroic nexus lol dps the dorf boss from range and deathgrip/kill clerics with the dks hehe) but that strat just doesnt work with the last boss in gundrak

[binx]

nexus advice

if your whole group gives the tree boss a hug, no one will have to worry about being violated by spikes



next, the partially visible wall will stop your ranged personnel (your tank has to be in the "arena") from being moved around during the gravity toss thing
but you can't attack her from where she is, which means your tank will have to pull her closer to the entrance by attacking her and then running backwards until she's close enough for the ranged to hit her, then run back in and tank her so she doesn't run too far and reset. You have to pull her closer again when she respawns after splitting.


in heroic there is an optional boss down the stairs to the right of her. He comes with two clerics that you should kill first, but then he's effectively tank, spank and remember the tremor totem.

I thought I would throw this "tip" in there.....
If you don't feel like eating the spikes, there's a spot where I park everyone - except for the tank. Make sure you tank the boss in the middle. Also, don't forget to drop some magma totems for those pesky little adds. Hopefully, someone will find it helpful. Have a good one!

[musixman]

Thanks everyone for this info.

It was very helpful.

[Svpernova09]

I'll give this a bump, it's good information, but the threads it's pointing people too are what we want to get away from. We want to have 1 thread for bosses that cover ALL the tactics, not just for certain group comps.

[Fursphere]

If I drink enough coffee tomorrow morning - I'll make a stand at cutting this thread up and putting the relevant posts into the correct threads.

...maybe

[thedreameater]

Instance: Naxxramas 10-man Spiderwing, Anub'Rekhan, Grand Widow Faerlina and Maexxna
Box: 4x elemental shaman
Gear level: level 80 blue gear
Difficulty: Easy from a boxing perspective.
Guide:

Anub'Rekhan
Upon entering the room, the tank tanks him where he stands, the raid spreads out in a half circle around it. Every now and then, when the boss casts Locust, everyone has to run to the left side of the room while the tank kites the boss on the edge on the right side and tanks on the other side after that. This goes back and forth some times, all the while adds spawn, two types, sometimes an elite, or waves of small ones from corpses of the elites.

From a multiboxing perspective, it is best to already circle at the side people will run too when locust. This way you minimize downtime on positioning and repositioning. However, when the tank kites the boss, you dont need to be spread out for a while, deal with adds away from the boss if possible, on the other side when going back on the boss spread out again. I healed the offtank on adds too so I made sure I didn't burn my mana by nuking. This is a long fight and pretty easy to see through it all. Fairly easy boss.

Grand Widow Faerlina
The easiest boss in Spiderwing, very easy to multibox through it. Basicly she starts with 4 adds. Every now and then she enrages and you need to kill an add straight away to remove the enrage. Every now and then she does a reign of fire, but for one, it doesn't do much damage at all. It's still better if you are spread out a bit, but not undoable by just moving out of the reing of fires while having alts on follow either. The reign of fire isn't problematic enough to really worry to much over. So when the boss enrages, quickly kill an add, they die quickly.

Maexxna
She does do some annoying things. But as an elemental shaman boxer there was quite a lot I could do extra. Basicly upto 30% you should take it easy, make sure you will have a lot of mana left when she gets to 30%, don't dps much, you don't really need to this phase. The hard part will be from 30% to 0%. We had the two other dps classes deal with the cocoons. It was a bit overkill for me to worry about them, the cocoons only have 5k hp and having 4 dps classes focus on killing cocoons shouldn't be needed. When one of your chars is cocooned, just individualy move them back to your group. Use Thunderstorms when the adds are around you only, they dont do much dps but can still annoy healers and casters a bit, but you should need to waste extra mana by using fire totems either. We had a mage that threw in some aoe's when mine was on cd.

At all times be ready to help heal the tank. If the web cc is coming and tank is low, throw 4 lesser healing wave on the tank. Actually, whenever the tank gets too low, help healing. It could very well be that one healer just got cocooned at a critical time. It'll be your job to make sure the tank wont die then.

You should use mana spring totems this fight and not poison cleansing. To dispell the tank, just make a macro that does a [target=targettarget] Cure Poison for your main, and whenever needed, cure the tank. This is important as the poison is a 90% healing debuff. It might be a good thing to have a seperate person also work on curing the poisons, or either two of your shamans. I found the latter somewhat problematic however since I sometimes needed to stop a cast to cure poison, and my cure poison macro wasnt made for that so I had to stop cast on all shamans to do so. There's macro ways around this however which I'll have in place next time. But yes, two people on dispelling the poison, just because one might get cocooned.

30% to 0% she goes enrage. We wiped twice here, well dont bring a crittable tank then, I know, working on gearing him up. :P We finally managed to do it by just nuking the boss and I often helped throw some heals too, made sure I was 80% mana so I could spam the shit out of maexxna. And we just barely made it, as the tank almost nearly died twice. But mmh, might want to bring a tank with at least 30k hp to this fight, as well as uncrittable ofcourse. Doable without, as we proven, but you'll need some luck. :P

Other wings will come in due time as I'll do them, for now however my guild decided to wait a few days and gear our MT up first a bit.

How does he laugh at the locus swarm in this video - that is what wipes me everytime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNBX-CzLBgc