Pali vs Death Knight "Tanking"

[TeK23]

Bladed Armor: 5/5
Increase your attack power by 5 for every 180 armor value you have.

That's the skill you are talking about and it's a blood talent.

[TeK23]

Mosg2,

Why did you choose to go with Unholy vs. Frost? Most of the sites I've read about tanking all go with Frost.

[Hachoo]

Unholy is the AoE tanking tree which is pretty much required for a multiboxer. Frost would be best for single target tanking.

[TeK23]

cool thanks for the info. I love pets and wanted to presonally go with Unholy for the pet factor

[Hachoo]

No problem. Unholy gives you a few great abilities (ESPECIALLY if you're using shamans/mages for DPS). First you get reduced cooldown on death and decay which does a LOT of aoe damage and generates a ton of threat. Second, you get the 51 pt talent unholy blight which also does a lot of damage AoE and generates a ton of threat. Combine that with increased pestilence damage (AoE as well), increased blood boil damage (AoE), and things like anti-magic zone and you have the perfect AoE/multiboxer tank. The ghoul pet is just a side bonus

Last, ebon plague being spread to all mobs means they all take 12% more magic damage (gogo chain lightning!)

[Drizzit]

Also isn't frost more of a raid tanking spec and unholy is a normal/heroic instance tank? Yes, i know it is an aoe tank.

[phineas01]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...nd&n=Chernabog

That's the armory link for my DK. With Frost Presence on she's at 19.4k health and 18.5k armor, roughly.

I used my Shaman team to follow along behind her from 58 to 70 doing Outlands stuff. Nobody was able to gank me because of the muscle, and I breezed through the content. Each Outland level took me about 3-3.5 hours on average.

Once I hit Northrend I just did all of Borean Tundra and Howling Fjords. I mean all of it. Every single quest in each zone. Yeah, I averaged about 8-9 hours per level, but I hit 64 doing both those zones with one or two Utgarde Keep runs thrown in. At this point, I can clear to the first boss in Utgarde and then reset the instance in exactly 12 minutes, which nets me about 45k xp. That comes out to about ~7 hour levels. I plan on doing all of 75-76 there and then starting back up with questing.

On the off-topic nerf related theme:

DK is the first class Blizz designed from the ground up with this new philosophy of each tree doing everything (ie tanking, dps etc) while just having a different flavor. This allows for a lot of flexibility. I would say that DK's are about average as far as class balance goes--There's nothing they can do that makes you go "FFS, wtf just happened?" When Strangulate got nerfed from a ~15 second cooldown to a 2 minute cooldown and AMS went from a ~30 second cooldown to a 2 minute cooldown, most DK's said "Sounds fair." Right now I think they're in a good place. Powerful, lots of potential, but nothing broken like Wings+Bubble.

All that having been said, I don't think that DK's are going to get nerfed. They are still in line for some small tanking buffs as far as mitigation goes due to the lack of shield block.

Huzzah!

Wanted to ask why you didn't take Magic suppression and Anti-Magic Zone. One of the problems I'm running into with my pally in ramparts is the casters and with a DK I think I won't have to worry about that so much especially having Magic Suppression and maybe even Anti-Magic zone just in case.

[Redbeard]

I am currently running 3 ret pallies in my 5 man but you guys are making me considering dropping one for death knight, oy.

TOooooo many choices.

I know they have horn of winter and they can produce a windfury effect, do they do anything else (besides, apparently, kill stuff uber fast) to benefit melee?

Man, I need to stop reading these forums you guys are evil =)

[Mosg2]

AMZ and 100% AMS is the bomb diggity, but so far I haven't had a single fight where I went "Man, I would've had that if I'd have had AMZ." I prefer to snag some of the DPS talents.

[Multibocks]

Does AMZ require a target ring for casting?