I'm the dev of "dualChoc".

[yetisWowbox]

I tryed to use it but it randomly crashes, the bsods me with access violation non_paged_pool error in reans.sys 0x during the license screen and anti virus halts when rebootted

b79b5c68 809c4c28 89113020 89113020 00000000 nt!MiCheckSessionPoolAllocations+0xe3
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[Itburnz]

Ok i obviously need to generate a new release. Gonna try to figure out why some people can run the license tool while others cant...

[Kel]

This won't be something I'll be trying, like others, I'm somewhat concerned about the legality of this in regards to Blizzards policies. Several reasons for this:

1. I'm not sure blizzard would class a line of chat as a hardware event, so I guess it depends on what actions you are doing with the tells. Following I guess is alright (at least it doens't seem to be something that other addons have been pulled up on), but for actually casting spells I don't think this is allowed (note this is only my opinion, it's not based on any proof from blues etc). There used to be an addon called whispercast which would let people whisper you a buff and you'd then buff them with the correct spell. Quite a while ago Blizzard broke the function that let people do that with addons, so I don't see how a piece of software that enables this is going to be ok with them.

2. Giving control to a friend. This is deemed account sharing and therefore a no-go in terms of not being banned, also having your toon controlled by a friend would class as unattended play.

3. The way macros are set up it is possible (with the use of an addon I believe) to put a delay inbetween (at least) two lines of chat, coupled with your software that would make it possible for people to perform more than one action with a keypress, so not needing to be at their computer in order to do something. Also addons are capable of of sending messages via chat, again making this a potential tool for unattended play or reactive in a way that isn't possible through blizzard macros, e.g. alt announces event in chat (like a stun), main whispers this to alt, alt uses pvp trinket. Now I'm not saying that the stuff for that is already out there (I've never needed to look), but from what I know of addons that do similar things I don't think it would be too difficult to set up a relay that works in that way.

Lastly, whilst endorsements of other software which has been used without problems supports this not being a keylogger, the fact that the alternative software was for 'warping and botting' doesn't fill me with confidence in terms of keeping my accounts up and running should I use it.

[Svpernova09]

This won't be something I'll be trying, like others, I'm somewhat concerned about the legality of this in regards to Blizzards policies. Several reasons for this:

1. I'm not sure blizzard would class a line of chat as a hardware event, so I guess it depends on what actions you are doing with the tells. Following I guess is alright (at least it doens't seem to be something that other addons have been pulled up on), but for actually casting spells I don't think this is allowed (note this is only my opinion, it's not based on any proof from blues etc). There used to be an addon called whispercast which would let people whisper you a buff and you'd then buff them with the correct spell. Quite a while ago Blizzard broke the function that let people do that with addons, so I don't see how a piece of software that enables this is going to be ok with them.

2. Giving control to a friend. This is deemed account sharing and therefore a no-go in terms of not being banned, also having your toon controlled by a friend would class as unattended play.

3. The way macros are set up it is possible (with the use of an addon I believe) to put a delay inbetween (at least) two lines of chat, coupled with your software that would make it possible for people to perform more than one action with a keypress, so not needing to be at their computer in order to do something. Also addons are capable of of sending messages via chat, again making this a potential tool for unattended play or reactive in a way that isn't possible through blizzard macros, e.g. alt announces event in chat (like a stun), main whispers this to alt, alt uses pvp trinket. Now I'm not saying that the stuff for that is already out there (I've never needed to look), but from what I know of addons that do similar things I don't think it would be too difficult to set up a relay that works in that way.

Lastly, whilst endorsements of other software which has been used without problems supports this not being a keylogger, the fact that the alternative software was for 'warping and botting' doesn't fill me with confidence in terms of keeping my accounts up and running should I use it.

I agree with you 100%, I'm trying to verify the author's claims and if I find it does things against the rules, well, we'll go from there.

[Itburnz]

There used to be an addon called whispercast which would let people whisper you a buff and you'd then buff them with the correct spell. Quite a while ago Blizzard broke the function that let people do that with addons, so I don't see how a piece of software that enables this is going to be ok with them.

I remember that. Now in whispercast it 100% automation. Remember dualchoc only triggers your text. Converts it from tell into chat. So you can for example just submit a "#cmd Hello" and it'll write "Hello" in whatever channel is active. This means for /cast you would 1st have to manually target someone using /target, then use "/cast whatever". There is no automation - i assume you can do the same with other programs, the difference is you have a more complicated setup to do so. (Making tons of macros.)

Seriously. All the software is doing is allowing you to control another character interface - just through the chat itself instead of tcp/ip or p2p. It might be the best idea to get a blue statement on the official forums for this. I guess everything else doesnt really matter...

[Itburnz]

3. The way macros are set up it is possible (with the use of an addon I believe) to put a delay inbetween (at least) two lines of chat, coupled with your software that would make it possible for people to perform more than one action with a keypress, so not needing to be at their computer in order to do something. Also addons are capable of of sending messages via chat, again making this a potential tool for unattended play or reactive in a way that isn't possible through blizzard macros, e.g. alt announces event in chat (like a stun), main whispers this to alt, alt uses pvp trinket. Now I'm not saying that the stuff for that is already out there (I've never needed to look), but from what I know of addons that do similar things I don't think it would be too difficult to set up a relay that works in that way.

Well i can't deny that one could abuse the software to use it for automation. But i'm sure one can also use keyclone and other software for that.

[yetisWowbox]

So how does this software send to the chat frame on #cmd hello thing, does the text just instantly appear?

Or does it physically type it by moving the mouse to 'focus' the chat window then presses the keys "h" "e" "l" etc.. + "enter"?

Or is it not bannable to hook the chat interface? Or do Blizzard allow you to call their code - thats well cool if this is "endorsed" as you say I can use it on all 5 of my shamans :love: ?

Hmm ... let us know.

[Lax]

It is bannable to read or modify WoW game memory, including the in-game chat interfaces. Blizzard would certainly not approve of software that does that. Please explain to us how your software is reading chat, since you are preventing analysis of your 2 gigantic 3MB executables for something so mundane as applying keystrokes upon an incoming tell (which could be done with ~10kb in a .NET app or probably under 100kb without .NET). Even if it was legitimate to read the chat and automatically respond by pressing keys, I wouldn't trust these executables.

[Itburnz]

There is no hooking or calling of any code. The software simply reads the chatbuffer from the wowclient. You just wrote what it does. It types the text into the chatwindow (exactly the way other dualboxing software works. The difference here is that it does not read the keys coming from another dualChoc app but from the chat.)

[Harem]

The software simply reads the chatbuffer from the wowclient.

This is what I asked earlier. Since this isn't an LUA addon and is an external program - how is it reading the chatbuffer? This is something Blizzard allows?

Couldn't an LUA mod be written that does this? How does the twoboxtoolbox allow me to use '/follow me' to make my toons follow?