5 shaman team or DK + 4 shaman from 70-80 and beyond?

[Drizzit]

I found that my pally was a huge help in av. I had him spec prot, which solo he sucks, but with the 4 shams he was awesome. What really made the pally good at being the leader is that he could take a ton of damage and still live (a lot of times people focused on him instead of my shams), but really helped the most was his stun... every 30 seconds i would have my stun up and that helped a ton against mages, warriors, lock, and runners. Having 4 pieces out the pvp gear i get my stun to 20 seconds. Telling you a lot of alliance where pissed thinking that they almost got threw me then they got stun and died. Have 4 dps shams the person usually dies before the stun wears off.

[Hachoo]

True.. DKs can do that too, only better. The ghoul has its own 3 sec stun, theres also a 100% immobilize, death grip is a temporary stun, etc, so I still think the DK shines for PvP more than the pally. Might be a bit easier to take down a DK than a pally but the DK also does not rely on mana and can do more damage. Plus the fact that you can lay down a death and decay which has a huge radius and will slow everyone down in it will make rogues who like to bob and weave a bit easier to target/shock as needed I think.

Just musings for now. More input always desired!

[Drizzit]

True.. DKs can do that too, only better. The ghoul has its own 3 sec stun, theres also a 100% immobilize, death grip is a temporary stun, etc, so I still think the DK shines for PvP more than the pally. Might be a bit easier to take down a DK than a pally but the DK also does not rely on mana and can do more damage. Plus the fact that you can lay down a death and decay which has a huge radius and will slow everyone down in it will make rogues who like to bob and weave a bit easier to target/shock as needed I think.

Just musings for now. More input always desired!

Shit great points... didn't know they could do that (just lvling my guy in blood for now), but with blood i find myself focusing a lot on my DK. This is just me you might have a better time. If the DK can do that and you can MB with him without a problem then maybe you should go with him. I just know that i wouldn't be able to handle it.

[Nitro]

I dont think speccing 1 shaman resto helps with a 5 shaman team for instances, in fact from what I've read it makes it worse

I run a 5 shaman team and I have no problem clearing UK, I did respec my 5th shaman Resto and it made going through UK a breaze. You dont even have to try hard, just map chain heal to your CL, LB buttons and have him targeting your lead shaman. You dont have to move from that setup till you hit the last boss where I just tank with my main shamans and use well timed lesser healing wave and riptide.

I'm level 72 at the moment and I did a complete level in UK. (I'm not saying 5x shaman is better than 4x shaman + dk or pally, wish I had a plate wearer at times as it would make instances easy mode)

[Nitro]

"He who wins at PvE wins at PvP" - SDW '08

You need the DK (or Pal) for PvE, period. You need PvE to gear up your guys both in levels and gear to win at PvP. ... not all that complicated.

PvE and PvP require different gearsets obtained by different means. No advanced PvE (tank class) required for PvPers beyond leveling to 80.

[Drizzit]

"He who wins at PvE wins at PvP" - SDW '08

You need the DK (or Pal) for PvE, period. You need PvE to gear up your guys both in levels and gear to win at PvP. ... not all that complicated.

PvE and PvP require different gearsets obtained by different means. No advanced PvE (tank class) required for PvPers beyond leveling to 80.

The way that they are doing the new basic PvP gear is though a PvE instance to get PvP gear... which to me sounds stupid. Maybe they should do something like guild wars or something. Where you can create a high lvl guy and start PvP with him.

[Nitro]

"He who wins at PvE wins at PvP" - SDW '08

You need the DK (or Pal) for PvE, period. You need PvE to gear up your guys both in levels and gear to win at PvP. ... not all that complicated.

PvE and PvP require different gearsets obtained by different means. No advanced PvE (tank class) required for PvPers beyond leveling to 80.

The way that they are doing the new basic PvP gear is though a PvE instance to get PvP gear... which to me sounds stupid. Maybe they should do something like guild wars or something. Where you can create a high lvl guy and start PvP with him.

You cannot gain PvP gear through BG/Arena grinding anymore?

[Drizzit]

You cannot gain PvP gear through BG/Arena grinding anymore?

I think you can but i think they are the equal to the blue honor gear. I think that this is a complete waste of time. They should make 3 parts of gear, PvE, BG, and Arena. Granted that BG and Arena can be the same, but somethings in BG and don't need as much probably, like a cast might not need as much stamina cause they can hind a little better in BG.

I hope that they make PvE arena... that would be some fun. But if they ever do this what will be the awards? Better PvE gear, if this happens hard core raiders will be pissed cause they have to work hard for there gear that they might get. But then it will not be fair to the non raiders that want to play cause then they will not have good enough gear to get onto teams.

[Schwarz]

Nitro: How long can you healer toon go with spamming chain heals? On trash is he generally dpsing or just healing the whole time? What water totems are you dropping (5 healing stream/mana stream or a combination of the both).

[Nitro]

Nitro: How long can you healer toon go with spamming chain heals? On trash is he generally dpsing or just healing the whole time? What water totems are you dropping (5 healing stream/mana stream or a combination of the both).

I drop 2 healing totems and 3 mana totems. I typically only bind my Chain Heal to my Chain lightning lately so I can "attempt" to be a little more mana efficiant. I usually drink every 3 easy trash pulls or every 2 hard trash pulls (4+ mobs).

When I first started doing this (2 days ago was the first time i ever specced one of my shamans resto in 11ish months of playing them) I would just have CH bound to all my attacks so i would need to drink after every fight but I was loosing alot of xp per hour that way.

I havn't had my healer dpsing at all.