Very much disappointed in Wrath

[pengwynman]

We should urge blizzard to make collection quest group drops instead of 1 person per item. Just think how nice it would be if a group doing quest could all loot the item when it drops instead of just 1 of 5. Collection quest are really pissing me off. Most of them unlock non collection quest and trying to get 10 of anything off camped mobs x 5 is not going to happen. I give blizz an F on collection quest thinking.

I don't think that is the problem... the problem is how the hell do raptor have no heads? Collections quests are not bad, but they all should be like a 99% drop rate. That would make them easier... Hell i don't mind killing 200 raptors if i knew each one will drop a head.

Try finding a head on anything after my Hunters' pets are finished with it. The role player in me is happy with any scraps that are left. 8^)

i just got left 4 dead last night... it actually has a few similarities to WoW, like: hunters are OP, and half the guys you kill don't have heads when you're done with them.

[Duese]

Using YOUR thought process, why the f*ck are you playing WoW are all? From the very beginning its been a continuation of the Warcraft RTS games storyline.

By your logic, you should have gotten bored with Warcraft 2 and quit there.

Seriously dude, way to kill your own argument.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, sheesh. I had two complaints and now I'm getting cussed at and questioned why I'm even playing this game. I'm sorry if I didn't smile and nod to everything that blizzard handed us in the expansion. I did not like borean tundra. It was not anything "new" for me. I play the same exact game as you, just apparently have a different opinion of what a person "should" be experiencing.

The game is a continuation of the initial game, just apparently you (in the proverbial form of the word) and I are not the same wavelength when I say that blizzard is "re-using" storylines.

I am not sure how I am killing my own argument though, because apparently I only play this game for the storyline. I mean, this isn't an MMO or anything. And I really don't know how you are getting any logic that I should have gotten bored at WC2. I dislike it when storylines are re-used, re-told, or re-interpreted. Part of this expansion is just that in my opinion. If I wanted to see the storyline of Arthas, I would have played WC3.

[TheBigBB]

Using YOUR thought process, why the f*ck are you playing WoW are all? From the very beginning its been a continuation of the Warcraft RTS games storyline.

By your logic, you should have gotten bored with Warcraft 2 and quit there.

Seriously dude, way to kill your own argument.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, sheesh. I had two complaints and now I'm getting cussed at and questioned why I'm even playing this game. I'm sorry if I didn't smile and nod to everything that blizzard handed us in the expansion. I did not like borean tundra. It was not anything "new" for me. I play the same exact game as you, just apparently have a different opinion of what a person "should" be experiencing.

The game is a continuation of the initial game, just apparently you (in the proverbial form of the word) and I are not the same wavelength when I say that blizzard is "re-using" storylines.

I am not sure how I am killing my own argument though, because apparently I only play this game for the storyline. I mean, this isn't an MMO or anything. And I really don't know how you are getting any logic that I should have gotten bored at WC2. I dislike it when storylines are re-used, re-told, or re-interpreted. Part of this expansion is just that in my opinion. If I wanted to see the storyline of Arthas, I would have played WC3.

This is partially about fact. All of the WoW storylines are continuations of the plot of the Warcraft universe, and the fact is that we haven't actually rehashed anything yet in WoW as you claim. Arthas is a character in the series. His continued existence in this gaming universe was guaranteed by the fact that he never died, because he's supposed to be very powerful. We've gone four years without seeing him, and he has not ever appeared in WoW at all. To criticize Blizzard for having this and other similar continuing plotlines in the WoW series based on the idea that somehow we are rehashing the same story is totally unfair, and then to say that it's a retelling of the same story is just plain wrong. It's a continuation from where we left off. Totally different.

Now, I am fully open and willing to even agree with statements like, "I don't like that plotline.", but that isn't your argument. Your argument is that the plot has no place in WoW because it's rehashed, which is ridiculous. It has every place in WoW. If you didn't want to see it again, ask Blizzard why they didn't kill off Arthas in WC3, don't blame WoW. There's basically NO WAY that they could have avoided having him show up again.

[Tasty]

Maybe some Capt. Planet and Power Rangers thrown in for flavor?

Where do I sign up!?

[Zub]

There are tanks to drive in borean tundra.

[valkry]

How is a continuation the same as re-using? Bah, Blizzard can never do anything right. If they dId something else, eople would complain that they haven't finished off the Arthas storyline yet.

I love the new zones and quests. They have thought of some awesome mini stories in there and some of the quests are a lot different then usual.

Just so everyone is clear, I want Tyrande to go find Illidan and "save" him. Then together they help your raid to smash Arthas into the ground. Illidan > Arthas imho :P

[Menthu]

To much emo here.

To the original poster:

Wtf did you expect in the first weeks of WotlK? A new continent only for you? :P Its clear to anyone that its gonna be busy! I play on one of the most crowded servers (Outland) and yes it sucks abit, but he! its the expansion! Time to explore stuff!

Now less emo and more jungle love!

-Jungle love

[TeK23]

/LOL OP.

Back before TBC I was T3 Mage Raiding guild, my release night went like this:

12:01am Upgraded account with about 10 other core raid members.

All horde raid guilds where camping Portal! 100's of the bastards. (I'm alliance btw)

We died spent first 15-20mins trying to get into portal dieing and rezing and slowly moving forward.

Got into outlands and tons of people questing and checking out zone, horrible lag. So said screw it, lets try out the new 5 mans

We all ran over to "ramparts" and downed bosses, Server First alliance side. Woot!
Then ran over to BF and spent a few hours doing that. Server First woot!

Logged.... sleep.

Next day. Logged in to account Queue time: 1 hour! WTF!!!

Waited got in and zone was full of people and impossible to quest any of the resource quests. So me and a group of guildies all ran instances and leveled.
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Wotlk: Same sh.it new expansion quest zones are full and people fighting to level. What I am doing.

Questing in Outlands doing all of my quests I never did and running heroics and 5 mans not bothered by any horde! Guess what! I'm leveling and having fun. OMG!

Just go play outlands and level there, the (70) 5 mans give you 700-800 xp per mob and it's cake. I'm doing about 15-25% level per run and they only take an hour or so, no deaths, no lag, no fus and your gear doesn't matter till 75+ anyways.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Kulzor]

Tek - I sure wish we could level by camping instances in Wrath. My toons are all level 72, and a run of UK (for I believe the 13 or 15th time so far - literally) net my group about one bubble of xp. ONE. Wow, that's a lot of runs to level up.

It appears that questing is the fastest means to level that I can see. Even tried grinding a troll open ground area for xp, but the xp's just not there for five toons.

As far as the storyline, they've fleshed things out and added a lot of new, novel ideas (to WoW at least) to questing. While they may re-use some characters, that only helps deepen some storylines. You *need* repeat characters to build up "big bad guys" over time. It also helps players feel like they know the enemy.