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  1. #21

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    I'm just going to go to a store at 6am or so and buy them. 5am if I can get up early enough.
    Multiboxing on Windrunner: Celz (BM hunter), Cyllan (tankadin), Kulzor (resto druid), Zugbug (elemental shaman), Cyllz (arcane mage)

  2. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Oswyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145175#post14 5175
    Imagine 5 million people trying to download 15GB at the same time...
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145727#post14 5727
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....
    It's a well-worn path, regardless.

  4. #24
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    I'm very happy to report that Newegg.com is AWESOME! I got all 40 boxes of Wrath of the Lich King today, the day of release at about 3pm in the afternoon!!!! They were shipped last night! At cheaper than any other place around plus getting all of them on the day of release, I'm very happy with them. I didn't have to pay for postage either!!

  5. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145727#post14 5727
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Oswyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145175#post14 5175
    Imagine 5 million people trying to download 15GB at the same time...
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....
    Manufacturing that many cds these days is not that much work - with the automated systems they have now, especially overseas, it's not that big a deal - making 5 million of them, you're probably looking at a dollar or less per box, including cd/dvd, all printed materials, and the custom imprinting for the cd-keys. I've worked on projects like that, not 5 million, but I've worked with the big boys in CD duping and box manufacturing, it's really not that big a deal.

    Bandwidth for 15g, spread out over several million people? $$$$! Which is why they use Bittorrent, if they had to host servers with direct download, they'd be broke.

    Me, I'll probably buy 5 copies online, get the keys, and download one installer, install one copy, set it up with all the addons and stuff - then make 4 symbolic links to it. I did that for BC.
    Prot Pally • Destro Lock • Holy Priest • Boomkin • Arcane Mage

    Heroic Bosses Down: Moorabi • Kologorn • Ormorock • Prince Keleseth • Eck

  6. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147986#pos t147986
    Quote Originally Posted by 'heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145727#post14 5727
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Oswyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145175#post14 5175
    Imagine 5 million people trying to download 15GB at the same time...
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....
    Manufacturing that many cds these days is not that much work - with the automated systems they have now, especially overseas, it's not that big a deal - making 5 million of them, you're probably looking at a dollar or less per box, including cd/dvd, all printed materials, and the custom imprinting for the cd-keys. I've worked on projects like that, not 5 million, but I've worked with the big boys in CD duping and box manufacturing, it's really not that big a deal.

    Bandwidth for 15g, spread out over several million people? $$$$! Which is why they use Bittorrent, if they had to host servers with direct download, they'd be broke.

    Me, I'll probably buy 5 copies online, get the keys, and download one installer, install one copy, set it up with all the addons and stuff - then make 4 symbolic links to it. I did that for BC.
    '

    lol, man, I'm trying to contradict you or anything, but if you think worldwide shipping of 5 million boxes of physical material is simpler than allowing direct download over bittorrent, you need help!

  7. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'ahtremblay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=148509#p ost148509
    lol, man, I'm trying to contradict you or anything, but if you think worldwide shipping of 5 million boxes of physical material is simpler than allowing direct download over bittorrent, you need help!
    Simpler, if your users are all technically competent and nothing goes wrong.

    If you think that would ever happen, or that Blizzard is stupid enough to piss away massive quantities of money because you think they need help, well...Idon't know what to tell you.

  8. #28

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    I think its rather obvious that blizzard is simply trying not to undercut its retailers (as required by contract) and desire shelf space to bring in new users. After 2-3 months, it will be upgradable online.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'ahtremblay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=148509#p ost148509
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147986#pos t147986
    Quote Originally Posted by 'heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145727#post14 5727

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Oswyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145175#post14 5175
    Imagine 5 million people trying to download 15GB at the same time...
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....
    Manufacturing that many cds these days is not that much work - with the automated systems they have now, especially overseas, it's not that big a deal - making 5 million of them, you're probably looking at a dollar or less per box, including cd/dvd, all printed materials, and the custom imprinting for the cd-keys. I've worked on projects like that, not 5 million, but I've worked with the big boys in CD duping and box manufacturing, it's really not that big a deal.

    Bandwidth for 15g, spread out over several million people? $$$$! Which is why they use Bittorrent, if they had to host servers with direct download, they'd be broke.

    Me, I'll probably buy 5 copies online, get the keys, and download one installer, install one copy, set it up with all the addons and stuff - then make 4 symbolic links to it. I did that for BC.
    '

    lol, man, I'm trying to contradict you or anything, but if you think worldwide shipping of 5 million boxes of physical material is simpler than allowing direct download over bittorrent, you need help!
    It's fine, I'm not mad - but do you know how much bandwidth is? It's not so much a "simple" decision, as it is straight up a cost issue.

    One box probably cost them less than a dollar to make. The retailers pay the shipping costs.

    Paying for bandwidth for 5 million copies? Who knows - but I'm betting the cost/account is more than shipping a box. Then they get to seed enough for everyone, pay for the bandwidth, and have enough left over for those who got it finished to log in...

    Who knows? Maybe they could do it - but I don't know if their infrastructure could handle it, if they could afford the bandwidth, plus the stress of 5 million people hitting the seeds or their servers, then there's the impact to the bittorrent network...
    Prot Pally • Destro Lock • Holy Priest • Boomkin • Arcane Mage

    Heroic Bosses Down: Moorabi • Kologorn • Ormorock • Prince Keleseth • Eck

  10. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=148548#pos t148548

    Quote Originally Posted by 'ahtremblay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=148509#p ost148509


    Quote Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147986#pos t147986


    Quote Originally Posted by 'heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145727#post14 5727



    Quote Originally Posted by 'Oswyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145175#post14 5175
    Imagine 5 million people trying to download 15GB at the same time...
    And manufacturing and shipping 5 million copies to retailers was a much easier feat....
    Manufacturing that many cds these days is not that much work - with the automated systems they have now, especially overseas, it's not that big a deal - making 5 million of them, you're probably looking at a dollar or less per box, including cd/dvd, all printed materials, and the custom imprinting for the cd-keys. I've worked on projects like that, not 5 million, but I've worked with the big boys in CD duping and box manufacturing, it's really not that big a deal.

    Bandwidth for 15g, spread out over several million people? $$$$! Which is why they use Bittorrent, if they had to host servers with direct download, they'd be broke.

    Me, I'll probably buy 5 copies online, get the keys, and download one installer, install one copy, set it up with all the addons and stuff - then make 4 symbolic links to it. I did that for BC.
    '

    lol, man, I'm trying to contradict you or anything, but if you think worldwide shipping of 5 million boxes of physical material is simpler than allowing direct download over bittorrent, you need help!
    It's fine, I'm not mad - but do you know how much bandwidth is? It's not so much a "simple" decision, as it is straight up a cost issue.

    One box probably cost them less than a dollar to make. The retailers pay the shipping costs.

    Paying for bandwidth for 5 million copies? Who knows - but I'm betting the cost/account is more than shipping a box. Then they get to seed enough for everyone, pay for the bandwidth, and have enough left over for those who got it finished to log in...

    Who knows? Maybe they could do it - but I don't know if their infrastructure could handle it, if they could afford the bandwidth, plus the stress of 5 million people hitting the seeds or their servers, then there's the impact to the bittorrent network...
    Blizzard wouldnt even have to do it, they could third party it out through direct2drive and steam, both would love to have the chance. D2D has sold blizzards products in the past, shame they didnt this time.

    Also... you gotta understand that just because they offer the online version, doesnt mean 5 million people will use it. Hell there are still people who break into cold sweats anytime their credit card gets NEAR a pc...

    I'd say at most 50% would use the download, and if they sent it out to Direct2drive they could split the bandwidth with them, on top of that blizzard always uses torrents... so no issue there either,

    **Edit just to add this, there is now a digital download available straight through blizzard.

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