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  1. #1

    Default Any advice for regular MgT?

    I have never run this instance. In my goal to get 5x Exalted SSO I'm picking up extra dailies and I want to do the 2-3 MgT quests for the extra 500-750 rep, plus maybe I'll get some drops.

    Unfortunately the section for MgT in the wiki has no information in it. Any hints on trash pulls or boss tactics I should use?

    I'm running 5 70 shamans, all quest greens/blues but with the 5pc blue pvp set.
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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    Just got to exalted on all my Shammies yesterday. To be honest, the dailies are a much more time-effective way of grinding your rep than MgT, though I did run through MgT a couple times to break up the boredom.

    The quests in MgT only yield 250 rep each, IIRC there are three. One quest completion after the first boss, then the orb quest for which you need to get past Vexallus, finally the quest to kill Kael'thas. I didn't have too much trouble with the instance except that I could not kill Kael'thas. He was fine until the gravity lapse with the death orbs; with the just-keep-nuking strategy I got him down to 1-2% a couple of times before my guys all got orbed. I wasn't able to figure out how to effectively draw all 5 of my team away from the floating orbs before I gave up - I wiped about 10 times - grr.

    On trash the standard 5 man shammy techniques work fine. In the larger groups, I would suggest dropping your grounding totems first and making sure their cooldown is up before initiating combat, so you can drop another set of 5 when the first set gets burned off.

    For Vexallus, I spam the macro:

    /target Vexallus
    /target Pure Energy
    /cast Lightning Bolt

    In the courtyard before the priestess courtyard, you can creep along one of the sides and only clear half the mob groups.

    In the courtyard with the priestess, I did not clear the two large mob groups behind the priestess. After taking her out, you can go straight into the building with KT inside.

    The priestess encounter is pretty wack, but straightforward - burn the most dangerous guys first. I would use up most of my Earth Elementals on this one (don't really need elementals for Kael'thas) to give a little breathing room and remember to drop Tremor Totems - you will def. get feared.

    The last big trash mob before KT is messy for pugs but not bad with focus fire and grounding totems.

    As a reference point, I'm in mostly blues with a couple of epics and greens, about 680 spell damage at the moment.
    Current team: Shnoght (DK) + 4 elemental shamans (Shalph, Sheta, Shamma, Shepsilon)
    Heroics cleared: Drak'Tharon, VH, CoS, UK, Gundrak, HoL, Nexus

    Waiting in the wings at 80: Shaladin (pally), Shmage (mage), Shruud/Shrued (boomkins), Shelta (leftover shaman)

    <Chain Lightning>, Alliance Bonechewer

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    Thanks for the tips!

    Will try this tonight maybe. I am in all blues/greens (only epics are the 2 rings from the HH), I only have 500 spell damage on my shamans, 7300hp, 7600 mana or so.

    Any tips for Kael? From what I read it looks like you can burn him down to 50% super fast (sometimes before a phoenix even spawns?) And then can you get your clones to follow you away from the orbs during the levitate or no? Should I try to burn him down to 0 during the levitate or just dodge orbs using instant cast dps when possible until the levitate ends?
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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    My new strat on kael is pop all trinkets and stuff get him to 50% should go fairly fast. Then when he leviates you press your follow button and have everyone come back to the entrance. Since all your guys are moving together the bubbles should all move toward you. Just fly around the room for a bit healing when needed. After ~30 seconds you get put back on the ground and you can dps him more. It used to be a race b/w the time I was leviated and him dying or me dying. With this new strat I can down him on heroic without bloodlust easily. One things that also might help is summoning your fire elementals to dps him while you run around. I can try and post a video if this made no sense.
    [spoiler][/spoiler]Shaone,Shatwo,Shathree,Shafour,Shafive
    <Zero Tolerance>
    Level: 70
    Server: Azgalor
    Race: Orc / Blood Elf

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    That seems pretty easy - guess I'll try it tonight and see

    Edit: When would I summon the fire eles? At the beginning of th efight or right when he starts the levitation?
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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    Fire eles are hit and miss usually for me. I get to max range (close to where the stairs are going toward him) then drop all my totems. I lay down 4 fire eles and my totem of wrath. The fire eles don't go after him until he runs toward your team. I have had some times that all the fire eles do is stand there and others where they will take him from ~30% to 1% while I am swimming around. I have also summoned a fire ele to close to him and made him despawn.

    Just make sure you have some sort of star chain heal setup ( ie every toon targeting another toon and then casting chain heal). It is actually simple once you figure out how close you can come to the orbs.
    [spoiler][/spoiler]Shaone,Shatwo,Shathree,Shafour,Shafive
    <Zero Tolerance>
    Level: 70
    Server: Azgalor
    Race: Orc / Blood Elf

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=143200#post 143200
    My new strat on kael is pop all trinkets and stuff get him to 50% should go fairly fast. Then when he leviates you press your follow button and have everyone come back to the entrance. Since all your guys are moving together the bubbles should all move toward you. Just fly around the room for a bit healing when needed. After ~30 seconds you get put back on the ground and you can dps him more. It used to be a race b/w the time I was leviated and him dying or me dying. With this new strat I can down him on heroic without bloodlust easily. One things that also might help is summoning your fire elementals to dps him while you run around. I can try and post a video if this made no sense.

    This sounds like a great approach. I kept having my trailing guys get hit by the bubbles and start to drop off because I was trying to dps too aggressively. Good to know, although for the next week I'm gonna try to zerg my pally/3 mage team and a second multiclass team (priest/druid/lock/hunter) to 70. After that, on to Northrend!
    Current team: Shnoght (DK) + 4 elemental shamans (Shalph, Sheta, Shamma, Shepsilon)
    Heroics cleared: Drak'Tharon, VH, CoS, UK, Gundrak, HoL, Nexus

    Waiting in the wings at 80: Shaladin (pally), Shmage (mage), Shruud/Shrued (boomkins), Shelta (leftover shaman)

    <Chain Lightning>, Alliance Bonechewer

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    I just bumped a post that tells how to do it very easy..

    Magisters' Terrace

    Forget trying to target the second bosses adds. Let your shield kill them as stated in the video link above. Follow his instructions and its a cake walk.
    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
    Epicurus

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    Well I finally found the time to run this last night! Was actually quite fun and a learning experience. The only part I had trouble on was the second boss, I wiped 4 times before I re-watched the video to see what I was doing wrong. I just couldn't understand what was happening, because the boss would come up to me, and before I could get a single chain heal off, everyone was dead.

    Anyway, turns out grounding totems absorb SOMETHING he does (still not sure what, but whatever it was it prevented me from getting hurt at all) and I killed him before bloodlust ran out.

    Aside from that the rest of the instance was quite easy. First boss I simply DPSed him, killed him before he finished draining the first crystal. Second boss was fine once I used grounding totems (and lightning shield).

    The big surprise was the 5v5. I thought it was going to be the hardest fight but it turned out to be the easiest. How easy you may ask? Let me put it this way, I forgot I could get feared, and shortly into the fight I got AoE feared to the point where none of my shamans were facing the right direction or within follow range... I managed to scoop them all back up, get them back into place, drop a new set of totems, and heal them, all without ever going below 75% health. I had gotten a mage, warlock, MS warrior, rogue, and the priestess. I dropped the MS warrior before he reached me, thats when I got AoE feared. I just kept groundings down, purged occasionally my target, and owned them one at a time, wasn't a big deal at all.

    Last, Kael'thas - he was SUPER easy. Used all cooldowns and nuked him as fast as I could down to 50%. Gravity Lapse I just used 5x Earth Shock, swam around away from the bubbles (they were really easy to dodge), kept 5x ESing him every time cooldowns were up, then when he dropped me I killed him before the next gravity lapse. I did drop 4x Fire eles but only 1 even attacked him - guess the other 3 were too far away. Grounding totem pretty much makes him a wuss.

    Will probably run this again tonight, just trying to get 5x exalted SSO and this actually gives something like 1400 rep per clear on normal mode even at reverred. Combine that with the dailies and thats a lot of rep per day.
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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    One question...I've run MgT twice now. The second time was even easier, I didn't wipe at all on bosses, only wiped once in fact, at the same spot I wiped 3 times on the first run. How on earth do you guys deal with all the eels before the 2nd boss? When I pull 1 I end up pulling 15-20 and they kill me before i can get a single heal off.. Right now I am using a CL, then using 5x magma totems, but by the time they start dying off 1-2 of my guys are dead.

    I could probably just use fire eles here or something but theres gotta be a better way. The only "successful" method I've tried is pulling 20-30 and using 5x thunderstorm + ele mastery, which mostly kills that group, but then it doesn't work on the next group.

    Any tactics with 5 shamans for this part would be good as I have the entire thing down to a piece of cake besides that part!
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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