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    Default Kaynin's advanced FTL set up with more! [quad shaman]

    Greetings, I'll make a little index to organise this post a bit.

    To understand this post, you should be familiarized with the FTL set up basics and got some layman's knowledge about macro's in general. This isn't a set up for a starting newbie. And I don't recommend it for new boxers either. First familiarize yourself with the basics, go to a spec like this when you near the end level.

    • 1. System and hardware
      2. Outside WoW keybinding and related set up
      3. Keyclone related set up
      4. Ingame WoW keybindings
      5. Ingame WoW Macro's


    1. System and Hardware

    - 1 PC
    - Nostromo N52TE keypad
    - Logitech MX laser mouse

    2. Outside WoW keybinding and related set up

    Nostromo bindings:


    3. Keyclone related set up

    DNP list
    • TAB
      RETURN
      SPACE
      W
      S
      A
      D
      SLASH


    Round Robin list
    • 2
      LSHIFT+R
      LCTRL+R
      LSHIFT+F6
      LCTRL+F6


    Keymaps

    Toon 1:
    Code:
    Q                    	LBAT	Lightning Bolt
    LCTRL+LALT+U         	LBBT
    LSHIFT+LALT+U        	LBCT
    LSHIFT+LCTR+LALT+U   	LBDT
    
    E			CLAT	Chain Lightning
    LCTRL+LALT+I        	CLBT
    LSHIFT+LALT+I        	CLCT
    LSHIFT+LCTR+LALT+I   	CLDT
    
    R			PGAT	Purge
    LCTRL+LALT+O        	PGBT
    LSHIFT+LALT+O        	PGCT
    LSHIFT+LCTR+LALT+O   	PGDT
    
    F			SSAT	Shock
    LCTRL+LALT+P        	SSBT
    LSHIFT+LALT+P        	SSCT
    LSHIFT+LCTR+LALT+P   	SSDT
    
    LSHIFT+E		ENAT	Elemental Mastery + Chain Lightning
    J			ENBT
    LALT+J		        ENCT
    LCTRL+LALT+J 		ENDT
    
    LSHIFT+Q		ABAT	Healing macro
    K			ABBT
    LALT+K		        ABCT
    LCTRL+LALT+K 		ABDT
    
    C			FLAT	Follow Macro
    LCTRL+LALT+L        	FLBT
    LSHIFT+LALT+L        	FLCT
    LSHIFT+LCTR+LALT+L   	FLDT
    
    SUBTRACT (Numpad -)	SPR1	Spread Out Macro
    N			SPR2
    S			SPR3
    M			SPR4
    
    LEFT ARROW		LEFT	Turn alts FTL (Exact the same on all four)
    7			LEFT
    RIGHT ARROW		RITE
    0			RITE
    I won't post the other four, but this is to give an idea on how my ftl is set up. For more information about how the FTL keymappings work check out this thread: Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup.

    When you want to broadcast a modified key for FTL, like I do with Shift-q and Shift-e, you can't use the shift modifiers in the FTL macro's, hence I make it send either unmodified, ctrl'd, alt'd, or ctrl-alt'd in the same fashion all FTL macro's are made. Ofcourse the FTL macro /target <ftl targeting stuff> will differ from the other macro's.

    The spread out macro is also slightly different then usual, so I will post that for all my chars:

    Code:
    Toon 1
    SUBTRACT (Numpad -)	SPR1
    N			SPR2
    S			SPR3
    M			SPR4
    
    Toon 2
    N			SPR1
    SUBTRACT (Numpad -)	SPR2
    M			SPR3
    S			SPR4
    
    Toon 3
    S			SPR1
    M			SPR2
    SUBTRACT (Numpad -)	SPR3
    N			SPR4
    
    Toon 4
    M			SPR1
    S			SPR2
    N			SPR3
    SUBTRACT (Numpad -)	SPR4
    Basicly, bind N to strafe left and M to strafe right on all chars and that's all there is to it when using this keymapping.

    Finally, the LEFT RIGHT thing, ok, here's the deal with that:

    Code:
    LEFT ARROW		LEFT	Turn alts FTL (Exact the same on all four)
    7			LEFT
    RIGHT ARROW		RITE
    0			RITE
    Should be -exactly- the same in all your four toons keymaps. I bound the Arrowpad left and right on my nostromo pad (see picture above) to 7 for left and 0 for right. So when I use it, it will send the strings LEFT and RITE to other clients. note: 7 and 0 need to be 100% completely UNBOUND in WoW, just keep your movement keybindings the way they are standard. wasd and arrow keys.

    The other FTL keymappings I use follow basicly the exact same method as described in the original FTL topic. ( Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup. )

    4. Ingame WoW Keybindings

    It's important to unbound everything you unbind everything you don't need on all characters. Keep WASD and arrow keys in tact.

    I have N and M for Strafe left and Strafe right on all chars, as I explained with the keymappings.

    5. Ingame WoW Macro's

    Nostromo pad keys from top left to bottom right:

    First row:
    1. F5
    unmodified Standard PvP sequence for all four with staggered tremor totems.
    shift modifier to drop grounding totems
    ctrl modifier to recall totems.

    2. q
    unmodified Trinket+Lightning bolt
    shift mod to Lesser Healing Wave
    ctrl mod to Chain Heal

    3. w
    Move forward

    4. e
    unmodified Chain Lightning
    shift mod EM + Chain Lightning

    5. r
    unmodified Purge
    mod shift Round robin Thunderstorm
    mod ctrl Round robin War Stomp

    Second row:
    6. F6
    unmodified (currently second trinket, the Light's Hope AoE trinket as well for me :P ) Fire Nova Totem
    shift mod round robin Earth Elemental Totem
    ctrl mod Fire Elemental Totem

    7. a

    8. s

    9. d

    10. f
    unmodified Shocks
    shift modifier EM+Thunderstorm on all four

    third row:
    11. SHIFT
    Self explanatory

    12. g
    unmodified drinking macro (first Mana Biscuit if available, then Purified Draenic, then Star's Tears, always chooses the first it finds.
    shift mod Drink Mana potion, also several names in one macro to make sure I can use a variety of mana potions should one rin out etc.

    13. h
    unmodified Ancestral Spirit, not FTL'd, I like swapping windows clicking four targets and mass ressing for example. No need to ftl it anyhow and you dont want more then one char ressing the same person.
    shift mod Astral Recall. I like it in reach. :/

    14. c
    Follow button! The funny thing is, there's no macro or binding for c at all in my entire WoW, but it does send keymappings for follow on my alts ofcourse.

    Scroll up. F7
    Mount macro

    Scroll click. 2
    Round Robin Bloodlust. I have it here as I wont accidentally press it ever then while having it within reach.

    Scroll down. `(~) the button next to 1 anyhow.
    Ghost wolf macro ([nostance] to prevent it from being spammable)

    Button above the d-pad thingy, CTRL
    Self explanatory, my second modifier.

    DPAD Move forward and Backward with up and down arrow, Left and right however bound to 7 and 0 for FTL purposes, so it -only- turns the characters I alt at that time and never the one I main.

    Last button: Insert, its standard spacebar but I like it as insert.

    Apart from that I have keybinds on my keyboard for PvE totem sequences and other PvE macro's I dont generally need on the fly or within reach. My nostromo pad set up is tuned for PvP.




    MACRO'S

    Whilest I could just post them all, there's little need for it, I will post some non FTL ones however and an FTL one and explain some things about them

    My F button.

    #showtooltip
    /cast [mod:shift] Elemental Mastery
    /cast [mod:shift] Thunderstorm
    /castsequence [mod:ctrl] reset=4 Water Shield, Flametongue Weapon
    /cast [target=focus,harm,nodead][] Frost Shock



    FTL macro layout with rule by rule explanations.
    (my shift-E when used on toon2, 3 or 4. So this is the ftl macro that exists on my toon1 (Caniika): as you can see, I could prolly remove the mod:shift in all three as it never changes, but I'm a completist so. :P . )

    #showtooltip Elemental Mastery
    /target [nomod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Canilka][mod:alt,nomod:ctrl,mod:shift,target=Canllka][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Canlika] (Standard FTL targeting system)
    /target targettarget (targets the leaders target.)
    /targetlastenemy (This is incase your main gets blinded or otherwise cc'd and your alts can not see your mains target for the duration of the cc. If you like a clean target system like me, you will need this bit. It will nevr bug and works 100% perfect, trust me!)
    /use 13 (trinket, got it unmodified at the moment to see if I like it, but I will likely go back to using [harm] in this one.
    /cast [harm] Elemental Mastery (Dont want to waste this unless target is harmful)
    /cast [target=focus,harm,nodead][harm] Chain Lightning (the first bracket is incase I have set a focus. this can be useful in some pve situations as well as arena for killing the first target, however you can remove it at first if you wish to use focus for other purposes. Its not neccesary. The second part is just a [harm] Make sure you dont add nodead. You want them to cast on feigned hunters too.)
    /cleartarget (clears target again, aaah, so clean.)

    My healing macro + ftl, since its pretty wicked. One button for everything!


    Q:

    #showtoolip
    /use [nomod] 14
    /cast [nomod,target=focus,harm,nodead][nomod] Lightning Bolt
    /cast [mod:shift,target=target,help,exists][mod:shift,target=targettarget,help,exists][mod:shift,target=player] Lesser Healing Wave
    /cast [mod:ctrl,target=player] Chain Heal

    FTL for the healing part, the TOON1 ftl one anyways. (shift+q):

    #showtooltip Lesser Healing Wave
    /target [nomod:ctrl,nomod:alt,mod:shift,target=Canilka][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Canllka][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Canlika]
    /cast [target=targettarget,help,exists][target=targettargettarget,help,exists][target=player] Lesser Healing Wave
    /cleartarget

    You might need... A minute or two to get used to this healing macro, but seriously, it's so powerful for just one button. <3 I love it. I have Chain Heal always targeted on self, it works best for me.
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    [reached char limit per post. :< ]



    Conclusion: What makes my set up special? I utilize the FTL set up with clean targets, my alts always seem to have no target, I like the clean look of it. And it does so without ever bugging out, safeguards in place for remembering the last enemy incase the main loses the target and everything. In fact, put a healing macro on a binding that is in DNP and you can freely target party and raid members to heal with your main while your alts just dps the last enemy target of your main. That's just how powerful this is. It is very lenient to every playstyle and I've perfected it to the point of being bugless. The control with the FTL'd position macro's is really wicked as well, mostly in PvE situations as far as the spread out button is concerned, but also in PvP situations, when you need to change your leader and still need to turn your alts (without yoru main suddenly annoyingly turning as well.).

    I'm sure I will continue tweaking bits and pieces of my set up in the future, when Hex comes I know I'll change the focus bits at the least but that's of later concern. Right now I strongly feel my set up is exactly where I want it to be however.

    Okay, I think that explains pretty much my entire set up. I'll be around to answer anyones questions obviously and hope this post might help a boxer or two with some issues.

    This is my UI by the way on my laptop. I have four windows on top of each other all with the exact same UI.





    For some reason my image tags don't work, anyone know how I can fizx those? :/
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    Wow good post ! Thanks for tons of good information, and the keybings for the N52TE.

    Now... I understand everything except the usage of modifiers with the FTL system. That has me *SOOOO* Confused, i really dont know where to start. You said that you cant use shift in the modifiers, but all the spells i see in the keymappings use shift + , i guess im just confused at whats going on with that.
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    Suppose you bind a spell to shift+q, and that spell requires targeting ftl wise.

    Then when you make the ftl macro's for your alts, they will always automatically see shift, as you are already physically pressing it.

    So shift+q always maps to shift+whatever you map too.

    ie. if you map shift+q to for example:
    shift+ctrl+u as well as ctrl+u it wont work, as both will see shift.

    And thus you have to adjust the ftl macro's to always include shift, since it is physically pressed.
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    You don't use the normal game Macro lengths do you? Cause it seems you are over the 255 char limit?

    Only reason I ask is cause I use the setup as well and pretty much my macro for targetting/casting is just under 255 char limit.

    Also for your spread out macro what does the subtract numpad - normally do in WOW? I changed it on mine to be my Keyclone Override button, and I think all it normally does is zoom out on the minimap but I could be wrong. Do you just have it in there so the current leader doesn't move while the other 3 go to their proper spots.

    If so then I totally understand what is going on.
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    I use macaroon for my macro's, never again have to worry about macro lengths.

    As for the numpad -
    I dont know what it normally does, if it does something, I unbound it. When I press it now however, in conjunction with the ftl keymappings, the only thing it does is send the appropiate movement keys to the then alts. So essentially, I haven't bound it to anything in WoW, and you can use any single key on yoru keyboard for this, ofcourse. The spread out macro is entirely constructed outside the WoW bindings.
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    I followed your Spread out macro exactly and I got it to work for Toon 1 and Toon 2.

    However when I try it on Toon 3 and Toon 4 it seems that Toon both Toon 1 and Toon 3 go the exact same way both times. Even though in my keymaps they are mapped to different directions. I totally don't get it.

    I even redid the keymap again just in case I did something wrong, but I don't get why I am having this problem cause I really don't see it in the keymaps.
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